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[BUG-230446] Privacy suggestion - Limit Avatar Visibility by EEP Sky Altitude #8123

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sl-service-account opened this issue Mar 22, 2021 · 4 comments
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sl-service-account commented Mar 22, 2021

How would you like the feature to work?

A new parcel option 'Limit avatar visibility by Environment Sky Altitudes' is available to the user when the parcel setting 'Avatars on other parcels can see and chat with avatars on this parcel' is turned off

When turned on, the viewer will only show avatars in the same EEP Sky Altitude range as your avatar are visible. If an avatar is not in the same EEP Sky Region as you, they will not be able to see you (eg. By alt-camming) - You will be invisible as though you were in another parcel

Why is this feature important to you? How would it benefit the community?

It's common in SecondLife for people to live on top of each other in the same parcel in their own private skybox.

An often undesired side effect is that it's possible for people in your parcel to alt cam into your skybox.

The new EEP implementation allows us to define sky's for a parcel at various altitudes - A user is likely to set up these sky altitudes based on the altitude of skyboxes in the parcel. I think that it would therefor make a good fit to have an option to limit visibility by these altitudes, giving users much better privacy in their skyboxes

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Issue BUG-230446
Summary Privacy suggestion - Limit Avatar Visibility by EEP Sky Altitude
Type New Feature Request
Priority Unset
Status Closed
Resolution Unactionable
Labels whirly-eep
Reporter Extrude Ragu (extrude.ragu)
Created at 2021-03-22T10:14:41Z
Updated at 2021-03-24T18:23:16Z
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  'Date of First Response': '2021-03-22T12:21:58.585-0500',
  'How would you like the feature to work?': "A new parcel option 'Limit avatar visibility by Environment Sky Altitudes' is available to the user when the parcel setting 'Avatars on other parcels can see and chat with avatars on this parcel' is turned off\r\n\r\nWhen turned on, the viewer will only show avatars in the same EEP Sky Altitude range as your avatar are visible. If an avatar is not in the same EEP Sky Region as you, they will not be able to see you (eg. By alt-camming) - You will be invisible as though you were in another parcel",
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  'Severity': 'Unset',
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  'Why is this feature important to you? How would it benefit the community?': "It's common in SecondLife for people to live on top of each other in the same parcel in the same parcel in their own private Skyboxes. \r\n\r\nAn often undesired side effect is that it's possible to alt cam into users private skyboxes.\r\n\r\nThe new EEP implementation allows us to define sky's for a parcel at various altitudes - A user is likely to set up these sky altitudes based on the altitude of skyboxes in the region. I think that it would therefor make a good fit to have an option to limit visibility by these altitudes, giving users privacy in their skyboxes without resorting to security devices.",
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Lucia Nightfire commented at 2021-03-22T17:21:59Z

Your use case is to cater to privacy. Why is EEP a factor?

Something like https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-951 is probably more in line with the use case, but only if multiple privacy "heights" can be set up in About Land.

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Extrude Ragu commented at 2021-03-22T21:27:43Z

Well, EEP Sky altitudes are usually set up by the parcel owner to line up with skyboxes in the sim. It just seemed like a natural fit to me that avoids the need to implement a new complicated UI

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Lucia Nightfire commented at 2021-03-23T14:27:28Z

IMO, I think tying privacy to EEP altitudes would not be flexible and not be in the best interest of privacy however convenient it might be to program that functionality in.

Your "live on top each other" reference reminds me of all the stacked rental regions out there that offer units every 500 meters, not just ground, 1000m, 2000m & 3000m or just 3 "usable" heights.

Also, there are adult locations that use private rooms at various altitudes that would benefit from more than just 3 "usable" heights.

I say 3 as ground is not much of a height for privacy and is not adjustable.

Also, thinking of the future, there is a chance large regions and/or 64 bit environments might become a thing and I would hope that would include a build height greater than 4096m.

Being able to have enough privacy heights over a longer build height would be more attractive as well.

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Kyle Linden commented at 2021-03-24T18:23:17Z

Hello, and thank you for your feature request.

Incoming suggestions are reviewed in the order they are received by a team of Lindens with diverse areas of expertise. We consider a number of factors: Is this change possible? Will it increase lag? Will it break existing content? Is it likely that the number of residents using this feature will justify the time to develop it? This wiki page further describes the reasoning we use: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Feature_Requests

This particular suggestion, unfortunately, cannot be tackled at this time. However, we regularly review previously deferred suggestions when circumstances change or resources become available.

We are grateful for the time you took to submit this feature request. We hope that you are not discouraged from submitting others in the future. Many excellent ideas to improve Second Life come from you, our residents. We can’t do it alone.

Thank you for your continued commitment to Second Life.

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