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Key: VWR-864
Type: Meta Issue Meta Issue
Status: Open Open
Priority: Critical Critical
Assignee: Unassigned
Reporter: Haravikk Mistral
Votes: 121
Watchers: 17
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1. Second Life Viewer - VWR

Meta-issue: Improve Performance!

Created: 26/May/07 10:55 AM   Updated: 18/Nov/09 12:02 PM
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Component/s: Avatar/Character, Building (in-world), Graphics, Performance, User Interface
Affects Version/s: 1.22, 1.23
Fix Version/s: None

Environment: Dual 2.5ghz G5 PowerMac, 4gb DDR RAM, NVidia 6800 Ultra 256mb, Mac OS X.4.11
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We all see it on a daily basis; the performance of the SL client is pretty poor. High-end machines with the most powerful graphics and more processing cores than you can shake a stick of RAM at are brought to their knees crying for their mothers when you fire up Second Life.

Even considering the dynamic nature of Second Life, and the way that this makes graphical superiority and performance a difficult issue; there are still a lot of areas in which SL's performance could be significantly improved to help with the user experience.

It is even the case that over the history of updates performance has steadily got worse, with performance improving features being few and far between.

This issue therefore proposes that LL dedicate more time to improving the performance of the Second Life viewer, thus enhancing the experience as a whole.

Please note; this proposal does not offer any specific solution. Since it is a meta-proposal it is intended instead to gather together possible performance improving features/fixes/changes, if you are aware of, or post, any then please do link them here.

If you wish for the Second Life viewer's performance to be improved, then please vote for this proposal. In addition you are recommended to read attached proposals and vote for any of them which you believe would be beneficial to Second Life.



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Haravikk Mistral made changes - 26/May/07 10:55 AM
Field Original Value New Value
Link This issue Relates to VWR-490 [ VWR-490 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 27/May/07 05:17 AM
Environment Dual 2.5ghz G5 PowerMac, 2gb DDR RAM, NVidia 6800 Ultra 256mb, Mac OS X.4.8
Description This is simple. We need more performance!

Every update seems to reduce performance more and more, and as I've mentioned in VWR-490, the LOD algorithm no longer seems to be doing its job correctly. FPS are horrible, where before they were at least passable.

There should be an entire Linden team focusing on this.

Please link other specific performance related issues to this, but do vote for it so we can show that performance is supposed to come before new features! Tons of areas in SL have been left to decay because improving their performance isn't 'visible' enough, but it does nonetheless make a HUGE difference to the playing experience.
This is simple. We need more performance!

Every update seems to reduce performance more and more, and as I've mentioned in VWR-490, the LOD algorithm no longer seems to be doing its job correctly. FPS are horrible, where before they were at least passable.

There should be an entire Linden team focusing on this.

Please link other specific performance related issues to this, but do vote for it so we can show that performance is supposed to come before new features! Tons of areas in SL have been left to decay because improving their performance isn't 'visible' enough, but it does nonetheless make a HUGE difference to the playing experience.

I mean, new skies, sculpted prims and so-on are nice and all, and may have 'wow' factor when you see what they're capable of. But they are worthless if people running powerful machines are still crawling along in this game! My machine isn't exactly old or performance impaired, and yet with 3 avatars on screen my FPS can plummet to 3fps or less, where before I could manage 10 or more on screen and LOD would keep things around 15fps or so, which is playable at least.
Big fancy new features are no good if the platform they are built onto is struggling with what it has already, please concentrate more Lindens on just taking the existing code and going over it with a fine-toothed comb looking for performance EVERYWHERE.
The Mac and Linux clients especially perform poorly as they take little advantage of facilities available to both platforms that would improve their speed.
Aimee Congrejo made changes - 31/May/07 11:39 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-910 [ VWR-910 ]
Aimee Congrejo made changes - 31/May/07 11:39 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-921 [ VWR-921 ]
Aimee Congrejo made changes - 31/May/07 11:40 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-922 [ VWR-922 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 04/Jun/07 07:32 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-173 [ VWR-173 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 06/Jun/07 03:34 PM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-280 [ SVC-280 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 07/Jun/07 02:17 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1118 [ VWR-1118 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 07/Jun/07 02:29 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1119 [ VWR-1119 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 07/Jun/07 02:37 PM
Summary Improve Performance! Meta-issue: Improve Performance!
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 07/Jun/07 02:42 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1120 [ VWR-1120 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 08/Jun/07 04:32 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1135 [ VWR-1135 ]
Nicholaz Beresford made changes - 11/Jun/07 10:03 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-733 [ VWR-733 ]
Aimee Congrejo made changes - 13/Jun/07 12:21 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1186 [ VWR-1186 ]
Mark Frazer made changes - 17/Jun/07 01:07 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-1188 [ VWR-1188 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 21/Jun/07 05:44 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-435 [ VWR-435 ]
Aimee Congrejo made changes - 02/Jul/07 11:46 AM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-385 [ SVC-385 ]
Aimee Congrejo made changes - 10/Jul/07 01:55 PM
Link This issue is related to by MISC-398 [ MISC-398 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 30/Jul/07 02:25 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-922 [ VWR-922 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 30/Jul/07 02:25 AM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-385 [ SVC-385 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 16/Aug/07 07:10 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-921 [ VWR-921 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 16/Aug/07 07:13 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-733 [ VWR-733 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 16/Aug/07 07:14 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-2161 [ VWR-2161 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 16/Aug/07 07:17 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1186 [ VWR-1186 ]
LaeMi Qian made changes - 22/Aug/07 01:47 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-2212 [ VWR-2212 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 04/Sep/07 06:19 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-910 [ VWR-910 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 12/Sep/07 03:49 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-490 [ VWR-490 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 14/Sep/07 02:48 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-2435 [ VWR-2435 ]
Rascal Ratelle made changes - 14/Sep/07 11:55 PM
Priority Critical [ 2 ] Showstopper [ 1 ]
Gigs Taggart made changes - 08/Oct/07 10:36 PM
Priority Showstopper [ 1 ] Critical [ 2 ]
Rascal Ratelle made changes - 29/Oct/07 07:28 PM
Affects Version/s 1.18.3.5 [ 10160 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 01/Nov/07 03:33 AM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-472 [ SVC-472 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 05/Nov/07 02:47 AM
Description This is simple. We need more performance!

Every update seems to reduce performance more and more, and as I've mentioned in VWR-490, the LOD algorithm no longer seems to be doing its job correctly. FPS are horrible, where before they were at least passable.

There should be an entire Linden team focusing on this.

Please link other specific performance related issues to this, but do vote for it so we can show that performance is supposed to come before new features! Tons of areas in SL have been left to decay because improving their performance isn't 'visible' enough, but it does nonetheless make a HUGE difference to the playing experience.

I mean, new skies, sculpted prims and so-on are nice and all, and may have 'wow' factor when you see what they're capable of. But they are worthless if people running powerful machines are still crawling along in this game! My machine isn't exactly old or performance impaired, and yet with 3 avatars on screen my FPS can plummet to 3fps or less, where before I could manage 10 or more on screen and LOD would keep things around 15fps or so, which is playable at least.
Big fancy new features are no good if the platform they are built onto is struggling with what it has already, please concentrate more Lindens on just taking the existing code and going over it with a fine-toothed comb looking for performance EVERYWHERE.
The Mac and Linux clients especially perform poorly as they take little advantage of facilities available to both platforms that would improve their speed.
This is simple. We need more performance!

Every update seems to reduce performance more and more, and as I've mentioned in VWR-490, the LOD algorithm no longer seems to be doing its job correctly. FPS are horrible, where before they were at least passable.

There should be an entire Linden team focusing on this.

Please link other specific performance related issues to this, but do vote for it so we can show that performance is supposed to come before new features! Tons of areas in SL have been left to decay because improving their performance isn't 'visible' enough, but it does nonetheless make a HUGE difference to the playing experience.

I mean, new skies, sculpted prims and so-on are nice and all, and may have 'wow' factor when you see what they're capable of. But they are worthless if people running powerful machines are still crawling along in this game! My machine isn't exactly old or performance impaired, and yet with 3 avatars on screen my FPS can plummet to 3fps or less, where before I could manage 10 or more on screen and LOD would keep things around 15fps or so, which is playable at least.
Big fancy new features are no good if the platform they are built onto is struggling with what it has already, please concentrate more Lindens on just taking the existing code and going over it with a fine-toothed comb looking for performance EVERYWHERE.
The Mac and Linux clients especially perform poorly as they take little advantage of facilities available to both platforms that would improve their speed.

###### META-ISSUE USAGE ######
Please note, while the purpose of this meta-issue is to group relevant proposals, it is also intended for use as an opinion poll. That is; whether you vote for a proposal attached to this or not, you are encouraged to vote for this meta-issue to show that you want greater performance as well. This is useful not only for tracking total interest in performance issues, but also for people who do not like any of the solutions attached here, but still want better performance.
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 05/Nov/07 02:59 AM
Description This is simple. We need more performance!

Every update seems to reduce performance more and more, and as I've mentioned in VWR-490, the LOD algorithm no longer seems to be doing its job correctly. FPS are horrible, where before they were at least passable.

There should be an entire Linden team focusing on this.

Please link other specific performance related issues to this, but do vote for it so we can show that performance is supposed to come before new features! Tons of areas in SL have been left to decay because improving their performance isn't 'visible' enough, but it does nonetheless make a HUGE difference to the playing experience.

I mean, new skies, sculpted prims and so-on are nice and all, and may have 'wow' factor when you see what they're capable of. But they are worthless if people running powerful machines are still crawling along in this game! My machine isn't exactly old or performance impaired, and yet with 3 avatars on screen my FPS can plummet to 3fps or less, where before I could manage 10 or more on screen and LOD would keep things around 15fps or so, which is playable at least.
Big fancy new features are no good if the platform they are built onto is struggling with what it has already, please concentrate more Lindens on just taking the existing code and going over it with a fine-toothed comb looking for performance EVERYWHERE.
The Mac and Linux clients especially perform poorly as they take little advantage of facilities available to both platforms that would improve their speed.

###### META-ISSUE USAGE ######
Please note, while the purpose of this meta-issue is to group relevant proposals, it is also intended for use as an opinion poll. That is; whether you vote for a proposal attached to this or not, you are encouraged to vote for this meta-issue to show that you want greater performance as well. This is useful not only for tracking total interest in performance issues, but also for people who do not like any of the solutions attached here, but still want better performance.
We all see it on a daily basis; the performance of the SL client is pretty poor. High-end machines with the most powerful graphics and more processing cores than you can shake a stick of RAM at are brought to their knees crying for their mothers when you fire up Second Life.

Even considering the dynamic nature of Second Life, and the way that this makes graphical superiority and performance a difficult issue; there are still a lot of areas in which SL's performance could be significantly improved to help with the user experience.

It is even the case that over the history of updates performance has steadily got worse, with performance improving features being few and far between.

This issue therefore proposes that LL dedicate more time to improving the performance of the Second Life viewer, thus enhancing the experience as a whole.

Please note; this proposal does not offer any specific solution. Since it is a meta-proposal it is intended instead to gather together possible performance improving features/fixes/changes, if you are aware of, or post, any then please do link them here.

If you wish for the Second Life viewer's performance to be improved, then please vote for this proposal. In addition you are recommended to read attached proposals and vote for any of them which you believe would be beneficial to Second Life.
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 16/Nov/07 09:25 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-3234 [ VWR-3234 ]
Rascal Ratelle made changes - 25/Nov/07 07:18 AM
Summary Meta-issue: Improve Performance! Major-issue: Improve Performance!
Affects Version/s 1.18.4.3 [ 10190 ]
Affects Version/s 1.18.3.5 [ 10160 ]
Priority Critical [ 2 ] Showstopper [ 1 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 26/Nov/07 02:42 AM
Affects Version/s Source code [ 10012 ]
Environment Dual 2.5ghz G5 PowerMac, 2gb DDR RAM, NVidia 6800 Ultra 256mb, Mac OS X.4.8 Dual 2.5ghz G5 PowerMac, 4gb DDR RAM, NVidia 6800 Ultra 256mb, Mac OS X.4.11
Affects Version/s 1.18.4.3 [ 10190 ]
Summary Major-issue: Improve Performance! Meta-issue: Improve Performance!
Priority Showstopper [ 1 ] Critical [ 2 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 01:14 AM
Workflow jira [ 11713 ] jira-2007-12-21 [ 21331 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 01:36 AM
Workflow jira [ 21331 ] jira-2007-12-21 [ 22575 ]
WarKirby Magojiro made changes - 22/Dec/07 12:54 PM
Issue Type New Feature [ 2 ] Meta Issue [ 6 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 02:54 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-21 [ 22575 ] jira-2007-12-22 [ 30235 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 03:14 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-21 [ 30235 ] jira-2007-12-22 [ 31521 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 07:58 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22 [ 31521 ] jira-2007-12-22a [ 37130 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 08:17 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22 [ 37130 ] jira-2007-12-22a [ 38110 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 09:14 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22 [ 38110 ] jira-2007-12-22a [ 41042 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 09:32 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22 [ 41042 ] jira-2007-12-22a [ 41978 ]
Rascal Ratelle made changes - 01/Jan/08 06:14 PM
Issue Type Meta Issue [ 6 ] Bug [ 1 ]
Priority Critical [ 2 ] Showstopper [ 1 ]
Rascal Ratelle made changes - 01/Jan/08 06:15 PM
Summary Meta-issue: Improve Performance!  Improve Performance!
Celierra Darling made changes - 01/Jan/08 09:54 PM
Summary  Improve Performance! Meta-issue: Improve Performance!
Priority Showstopper [ 1 ] Critical [ 2 ]
Issue Type Bug [ 1 ] Meta Issue [ 6 ]
Rascal Ratelle made changes - 24/Jan/08 05:36 PM
Link This issue is duplicated by VWR-1740 [ VWR-1740 ]
Rascal Ratelle made changes - 24/Jan/08 05:37 PM
Link This issue is duplicated by VWR-1740 [ VWR-1740 ]
Rascal Ratelle made changes - 24/Jan/08 05:43 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1740 [ VWR-1740 ]
McCabe Maxsted made changes - 21/Jul/08 11:26 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-783 [ VWR-783 ]
McCabe Maxsted made changes - 21/Jul/08 11:26 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-783 [ VWR-783 ]
Gordon Wendt made changes - 28/Aug/08 03:24 PM
Link This issue is related to by MISC-1504 [ MISC-1504 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 10:59 AM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22a [ 41978 ] jira-2008-11-14 [ 61792 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 11:15 AM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22a [ 61792 ] jira-2008-11-14 [ 66847 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:29 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 66847 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 86776 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:40 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 86776 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 90008 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:51 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 90008 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 93621 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:03 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 93621 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 98264 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:20 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 98264 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 104699 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:36 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 104699 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 110767 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:51 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 110767 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 115699 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 06:11 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 115699 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 123052 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 06:26 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 123052 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 128949 ]
Zauber Exonar made changes - 22/Nov/08 09:22 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-10213 [ VWR-10213 ]
Khyota Wulluf made changes - 12/Jan/09 02:45 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-11505 [ VWR-11505 ]
Khyota Wulluf made changes - 12/Jan/09 04:42 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-11505 [ VWR-11505 ]
Khyota Wulluf made changes - 12/Jan/09 04:42 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7964 [ VWR-7964 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 12/Jan/09 07:11 PM
Link This issue is related to by MISC-1504 [ MISC-1504 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 12/Jan/09 07:11 PM
Link This issue is related to by MISC-398 [ MISC-398 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 12/Jan/09 07:11 PM
Link This issue Relates to MISC-1504 [ MISC-1504 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 12/Jan/09 07:11 PM
Link This issue Relates to MISC-398 [ MISC-398 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 12/Jan/09 07:12 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7964 [ VWR-7964 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 12/Jan/09 07:12 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-7964 [ VWR-7964 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 12/Jan/09 07:23 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-11505 [ VWR-11505 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 12/Jan/09 07:23 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-7964 [ VWR-7964 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 12/Jan/09 07:24 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7964 [ VWR-7964 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 15/Jan/09 06:41 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-11564 [ VWR-11564 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 15/Jan/09 06:41 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-11564 [ VWR-11564 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 26/Jun/09 07:16 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1135 [ VWR-1135 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 26/Jun/09 07:16 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-1135 [ VWR-1135 ]
Haravikk Mistral made changes - 30/Sep/09 01:31 PM
Affects Version/s 1.23 [ 10470 ]
Affects Version/s 1.22 [ 10430 ]
Affects Version/s Source code [ 10012 ]