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Key: VWR-8235
Type: Meta Issue Meta Issue
Status: Open Open
Priority: Normal Normal
Assignee: Unassigned
Reporter: Dolfke Barbosa
Votes: 5
Watchers: 2
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1. Second Life Viewer - VWR

Poor Performance of 1.20 Viewer on Mac hardware

Created: 18/Jul/08 07:08 AM   Updated: 17/Dec/08 08:32 PM
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Component/s: Performance
Affects Version/s: 1.20 Release Candidate
Fix Version/s: None

Environment: Apple Mac OS X 10.5.4
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Still not getting better on Mac !!!
Even older issues came back, so the RC14 kills my whole Unix system, freeses up my whole Mac, so I only can do a hard reset ...

Pls stop getting out more and more advanced graphic things, we can't use, and pls, do something about the crashes, (cycling) freeses and PERFORMANCE.

Also Mac users want to be able to set the draw distance to 512 m als their Windows contraparts are able to do since ages.

OpenGL Profiler is really no use, since it disables all advanced Graphic Settings, so one can better use the 1.18 viewer !!!

And omg, the RC 14 viewer, well, nothing new on the Mac side of the universe : still abedominal low and quircky and jerky and ... not usable at all ... on any Mac.

LL is hiding after the so sayed Nvidia 8600M GT card, who has defective driver, but sl on Macs , and I mean ALL Macs is far under performance of the windows counterpart.

We really need some one at LL who takes this seriously, and solves it for once and forall, after all, its almost a year now, this is a MAJOR issue on any Mac ?

And yes, its well described by the users, poor performance, freeses, cycling, system crashes ... NO other Mac program behaives that bad as the LL sl Mac viewers do.

It's only a pitty Onrez is not developping more his viewer to mach the new technologies ;-((

I also tested out the Preview Sim, running the latest Server version, no noticeble change to the havoc 1 sims at all, so I'm very sure its the sl viewer for Mac that sucks really bad.

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Ramzi Linden added a comment - 18/Jul/08 03:39 PM
Thanks for the meta issue, Dolfke. For clarity I renamed the summary slightly (was: RC14 on Mac hardware).
Let's link the more specific reported issues about problems on Macs to this one.

Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 03:39 PM
Field Original Value New Value
Summary RC14 on Mac hardware Poor Performance of 1.20 Viewer on Mac hardware
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-6672 [ VWR-6672 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7794 [ VWR-7794 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7320 [ VWR-7320 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-8197 [ VWR-8197 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-2168 [ VWR-2168 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-6897 [ VWR-6897 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-6335 [ VWR-6335 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7779 [ VWR-7779 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7875 [ VWR-7875 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-6547 [ VWR-6547 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7796 [ VWR-7796 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-914 [ VWR-914 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7084 [ VWR-7084 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7454 [ VWR-7454 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-8058 [ VWR-8058 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7809 [ VWR-7809 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 18/Jul/08 05:08 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-7553 [ VWR-7553 ]
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Dolfke Barbosa added a comment - 19/Jul/08 03:06 AM
thanks Ramzi, now I surely hope (or wished ?) that LL takes this seriously, and does something on the performance, stability and memory leaks on his recent Mac sl viewers ?

afer all, its an issue almost for a year now, and it's surely ;-(( not improving among the RC versions, nor the official sl viewer, 1.19.1.4

only the older Second Life 1.19.0.5.app is somehow usefully on Mac hardware, but it's completely outdated, and can't match the beautifull graphics found on the Windows contraparts viewers, using Windlight and Dazzle.

I see the issue is still unassigned by LL ?


Ellla McMahon made changes - 19/Jul/08 09:25 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-1715 [ VWR-1715 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 19/Jul/08 09:26 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-6887 [ VWR-6887 ]
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moni duettmann added a comment - 21/Jul/08 04:33 AM
What's your environment, Dolfke?

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Dolfke Barbosa added a comment - 21/Jul/08 07:17 AM
moni duettmann, I have the following configuration, I also tested on my other Macs, Macbook Pro 15" 2,2 GHz and quad G5 4x2,5 GHz

Hardwareoverzicht:

Modelnaam: MacBook Pro
Modelaanduiding: MacBookPro4,1
Processornaam: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processorsnelheid: 2.6 GHz
Aantal processors: 1
Totaal aantal cores: 2
L2-cache: 6 MB
Geheugen: 4 GB
Bussnelheid: 800 MHz
Opstart-ROM-versie: MBP41.00C1.B03
SMC-versie: 1.28f1
Serienummer: W88120UHYP4
Sudden Motion Sensor:
Status: Ingeschakeld

Chipsetmodel: GeForce 8600M GT
Type: Beeldscherm
Bus: PCIe
Breedte PCIe-baan: x16
VRAM (totaal): 512 MB
Fabrikant: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Apparaatcode: 0x0407
Revisiecode: 0x00a1
ROM-revisie: 3212
Beeldschermen:
Kleuren-LCD:
Beeldschermtype: LCD
Resolutie: 1920 x 1200
Diepte: 32-bits kleur
Ingebouwd: Ja
Core Image: Hardwareversnelling
Hoofdbeeldscherm: Ja
Synchrone weergave: Uit
Online: Ja
Quartz Extreme: Ondersteund
Beeldschermconnector:
Status: Geen beeldscherm aangesloten

Systeemversie: Mac OS X 10.5.4 (9E17)
Kernelversie: Darwin 9.4.0
Opstartvolume: System.HD
Opstartmodus: Normaal
Computernaam: Jvhs_Leopardje_17
Gebruikersnaam: JVH (jvh)
Tijd sinds opstarten: 1 dag16:40


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Sunn Thunders added a comment - 21/Jul/08 09:06 PM
Here are some observations from the past few days since 1.20.14 was released: severe time dilation; recurring spikes in network activity (even in an empty sim with nothing going on); rubber banding of my avatar when walking/flying; delayed or no response when trying to walk/fly; chat delay of up to two minutes; double teleporting; ghost avatars that never materialize; increased crashing. None of these things were happening with 1.20.13 – everything was nearly perfect then. I'm wracking my brain to figure out what could have changed, but am coming up empty and lost...

Help!

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Second Life 1.20.14 (92115) Jul 14 2008 14:53:05 (Second Life Release Candidate)

You are at 172277.0, 262176.8, 22.5 in Orange Bisbee located at sim5470.agni.lindenlab.com (8.2.34.26:13002)
Second Life Server 1.22.4.90499

CPU: Dual i386 (Unknown) (2160 MHz)
Memory: 3072 MB
OS Version: Darwin 9.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.4.0: Mon Jun 9 19:30:53 PDT 2008; root:xnu-1228.5.20~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
Graphics Card Vendor: Intel Inc.
Graphics Card: Intel GMA 950 OpenGL Engine
OpenGL Version: 1.2 APPLE-1.5.28
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.16782 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.13_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 33/7845 (0.4%)


Ramzi Linden made changes - 22/Jul/08 09:27 AM
Link This issue is duplicated by VWR-8279 [ VWR-8279 ]
Gellan Glenelg made changes - 26/Jul/08 09:39 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-8362 [ VWR-8362 ]
Ramzi Linden made changes - 01/Aug/08 01:56 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-8395 [ VWR-8395 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 06/Aug/08 04:58 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-8420 [ VWR-8420 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 10/Aug/08 07:38 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-2913 [ VWR-2913 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 19/Aug/08 11:17 AM
Link This issue is related to by SVC-905 [ SVC-905 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 20/Aug/08 03:57 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-8597 [ VWR-8597 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 11/Sep/08 01:40 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-8654 [ VWR-8654 ]
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Ellla McMahon added a comment - 10/Oct/08 04:48 PM
Reporters with Macbook Pros & GeForce 8600M cards might be interested in Apple's announcement today

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377

MacBook Pro: Distorted video or no video issues

  • Last Modified: October 10, 2008
  • Article: TS2377

Symptoms

In July 2008, NVIDIA publicly acknowledged a higher than normal failure rate for some of their graphics processors due to a packaging defect. At that same time, NVIDIA assured Apple that Mac computers with these graphics processors were not affected. However, after an Apple-led investigation, Apple has determined that some MacBook Pro computers with the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor may be affected. If the NVIDIA graphics processor in your MacBook Pro has failed, or fails within two years of the original date of purchase, a repair will be done free of charge, even if your MacBook Pro is out of warranty.


Ellla McMahon made changes - 10/Oct/08 05:58 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-9611 [ VWR-9611 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 10/Oct/08 05:59 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-9690 [ VWR-9690 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 19/Oct/08 09:39 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-9895 [ VWR-9895 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 22/Oct/08 01:53 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-9983 [ VWR-9983 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 11:06 AM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22a [ 57484 ] jira-2008-11-14 [ 63897 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 11:26 AM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22a [ 63897 ] jira-2008-11-14 [ 71035 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:49 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 71035 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 93235 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:07 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 93235 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 99636 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:15 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 99636 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 102708 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:27 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 102708 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 107391 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:54 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 107391 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 116605 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 06:17 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 116605 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 125315 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 06:36 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 125315 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 132275 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 06:59 PM
Workflow jira-2008-11-14 [ 132275 ] jira-2008-11-14a [ 141388 ]
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Gordon Wendt added a comment - 17/Dec/08 08:32 PM
Lowering, there is no reason for a meta issue to be a showstopper. Put the related issues at the correct priority for each of them since this is just here to categorize them.

Gordon Wendt made changes - 17/Dec/08 08:32 PM
Priority Showstopper [ 1 ] Normal [ 4 ]

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