[#VWR-7760] enabling anti aliasing breaks camera controls

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enabling anti aliasing breaks camera controls

Created: 13/Jun/08 05:27 PM Updated: 11/Mar/09 01:59 AM

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Component/s:

User Interface

Affects Version/s:

1.20 Release Candidate, 1.20, 1.21

Fix Version/s:

None

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1. Depthmap_2xAA_RC1.20.14_Cat8.7.jpg
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2. Depthmap_NoAA_RC1.20.14_Cat8.7.jpg
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Environment:

athlon 62x 4200 ati radeon 850xt

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This issue Relates to:

~~VWR-7126~~ Camera rotates when the camera is moved left or right the closer the camera rotation is to +/- 90 degrees

~~VWR-7430~~ Quirky camera movement

VWR-12080 Meta-Issue: Issues with ATI Catalyst 7.12-9.10

VWR-8820 Meta Issue: Camera Issues (1.21+ viewers)

This issue is related to by:

~~VWR-7126~~ Camera rotates when the camera is moved left or right the closer the camera rotation is to +/- 90 degrees

~~VWR-7430~~ Quirky camera movement

~~VWR-7145~~ Camera panning fails to operate correctly

Linden Lab Issue ID:

DEV-18345

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enalbling antialiasing in hardware controls causes camera controls, eg. cntrl alt drag, to behave erratically. disabling antialiasing fixes the problem.

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Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 13/Jun/08 06:27 PM

This is not occurring for me, can you provide more environment information like OS you are running?

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flopsie mcardle added a comment - 13/Jun/08 06:42 PM

windows xp sp2, radeon driver 8.5. 2 gig ram. basicly, camera control work normally until i eneable anti aliasing. then they get whacked. turn aa off, and everything is back to normal.

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kean kelly added a comment - 14/Jun/08 04:21 PM - edited

I have the same problem.

Camera movement is fine when antialiasing is disabled. When i enable antialiasing 2x or 4x the fokus of the camera movement get all whacky, spins on zoom, and sometimes it feels af if theres a planar in fromt of you (but there is nothing there, checked with transparant object view on). This happens in any SIm.

Disabling antialiasing again turns the camera movement back to normal.

This is highly annoying when wanting to make sharp antialiased highrez snapshots. So i am upgrading the priority.

Graphic driver is udated 2 days ago.

Second Life 1.20.10 (89467) Jun 10 2008 18:17:42 (Second Life Release Candidate)

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (Unknown model) (2992 MHz)
Memory: 1023 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series
OpenGL Version: 2.1.7537 Release
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.15889 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.13_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 13/48900 (0.0%)

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Saiki Spirt added a comment - 18/Jun/08 03:24 PM

Even without anti-lasting the camera acts the same way, doing nothing but circling the avatar to the point SL is nearly un-usable. These are my specs:

CPU: Intel Core Series Processor (1866 MHz)
Memory: 1015 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: Intel
Graphics Card: Intel 945GM
OpenGL Version: 1.4.0 - Build 7.14.10.4926
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.15984 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.13_0000000000)

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kean kelly added a comment - 05/Jul/08 03:47 AM

This is still a problem in the 1.20.12.

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Tanooki Darkes added a comment - 12/Jul/08 10:24 PM - edited

I am experiencing this problem too. Here are my system specs:

Second Life 1.20.13 (91658) Jul 8 2008 16:01:06 (Second Life Release Candidate)

You are at 255710.9, 256669.2, 59.8 in Lusk located at sim3356.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.21.91:12035)
Second Life Server 1.22.4.90499

CPU: AMD Athlon64 (SanDiego) (2499 MHz)
Memory: 2048 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: RADEON X800 XL 256MB
OpenGL Version: 2.1.7659 Release

ATI Catalyst version: 8.6

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Ramzi Linden added a comment - 24/Jul/08 04:59 PM

Thanks for these reports. We will investigate.

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Tanooki Darkes added a comment - 29/Jul/08 01:19 AM

This problem still occurs in the latest stable viewer.

Second Life 1.20.15 (92456) Jul 18 2008 10:58:42 (Second Life Release)

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Tanooki Darkes added a comment - 30/Aug/08 05:42 PM

This problem still occurs in the latest Release Candidate viewer.

Second Life 1.21.0 (95157) Aug 26 2008 16:03:19 (Second Life Release Candidate)

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PCGtussi Zabelin added a comment - 27/Sep/08 09:56 AM

This problem still exist with the version 1.20.16.97603 (27.09.08)

My System:
CPU: AMD K7 (Unknown model) (1670 MHz)
Memory: 1024 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: RADEON 9600 SERIES x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE
OpenGL Version: 2.0.6645 WinXP Release

How i fixed it:
I never had the problem before, but after reinstalling all things new on my computer i got a victim of this bug. So i think its a problem with the new ATI-drivers, because i had the 8-9_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_68898.exe version running.
After i switched back to an old version (7-7_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_49709.exe) i have Antialiasing OFF in the SL preferences. But switched it to 2x in the Catalyst Control Center. Didn't worked with the newest version, but does work with the old now without that Camerabug.

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Minevera Boucher added a comment - 13/Feb/09 04:44 PM

Problem exists in client 1.21.6 (99587)

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Willamette (1993 MHz)
Memory: 1024 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series
OpenGL Version: 2.1.8304 Release
Graphics Driver: 8.561

It may not be an ATI/AMD problem, PCGtussi. Is there anyone out there who has this problem with an nVidia card?

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Fax Fellini added a comment - 08/Mar/09 06:01 PM - edited

I had the same problem today after upgrading my Mobility Radeon X700 card's drivers to the latest Catalyst 9.2. Hoping to start using (old) Windlight without yellow clouds, I lost alt-camera, heh

Turning anti-aliasing off does solve the issue. It's a bad trade-off since I do photography in world.

I don't know exactly which drivers version I had before - my laptop uses brand-specific drivers so they weren't updated for long, I had the last update from their website and it reads "ATI 6.14.10.6543". Today, like I said, I updated to the latest 9.2 Catalyst drivers, as per Ralf's last post in WWR-3230. My specs:

Second Life 1.21.6 (99587) Oct 14 2008 17:42:25 (Second Life Release)
Release Notes

You are at 192394.1, 293586.6, 23.4 in Kzer Za located at sim7282.agni.lindenlab.com (8.10.146.30:13002)
Second Life Server 1.25.5.109327
Release Notes

CPU: Intel Pentium M Series Processor (1995 MHz)
Memory: 1023 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700
OpenGL Version: 2.1.8494 Release

libcurl Version: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.7c zlib/1.2.3
J2C Decoder Version: KDU
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.22298 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.13_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 10/11015 (0.1%)

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Ellla McMahon added a comment - 08/Mar/09 06:46 PM

Fax, please would you check for an update to your Windows OS to SP3 as recommended by ATI and also please try the latest RC Viewer which can be downloaded from here Release Candidate Test Viewers and see if you still have an issue.

Thank you : )

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Fax Fellini added a comment - 10/Mar/09 06:04 PM - edited

Thank you for your help, Ellla, it is working fine now

SP3 alone wasn't enough, I still had the same issue with the latest stable Second Life 1.21.6. Installing the latest RC Viewer, however, fixed the problem. New picking system, eh? Well done

My specs now:

Second Life 1.22.10 (112620) Feb 20 2009 17:25:43 (Second Life Release Candidate)

You are at 248390.4, 248340.9, 43.3 in Apollo located at sim5031.agni.lindenlab.com (8.2.32.32:12035)
Second Life Server 1.25.6.113484

CPU: Intel Pentium M Series Processor (1995 MHz)
Memory: 1023 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700
OpenGL Version: 2.1.8494 Release

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Ellla McMahon added a comment - 11/Mar/09 01:59 AM

Fax, thank you for your feedback : )

Please would other reporters of this issue try the latest RC Viewer which can be downloaded from here Release Candidate Test Viewers and update their Graphics Card drivers How do I get the latest drivers for my graphics card?.

If you still have an issue, please add your full computer environment, Help > About Second Life, including the Viewer you are using and the Graphics Card driver version you have.

Thank you : )