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Key: VWR-776
Type: Meta Issue Meta Issue
Status: Open Open
Priority: Major Major
Assignee: Unassigned
Reporter: yukiko omegamu
Votes: 31
Watchers: 6
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flexible custom permissions for estate managers

Created: 18/May/07 08:49 PM   Updated: 05/Oct/08 11:29 AM
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Component/s: Land, Permissions
Affects Version/s: 1.16.0.x, Source code, 1.21 Public Nightly, 1.20, 1.19.0.5, 1.19.1.4, 1.21 Release Candidate
Fix Version/s: None

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Estate owners should be able to assign their managers any combination of the following permissions :

Parcels

  • Immunity to parcel ejects, bans, and access lines of all types, also, cannot be teleported home (NEW)
  • Ability to reclaim land back into the hands of the estate owner
  • Ability to set land owned by the estate owner as for sale, including sale details
  • Ability to modify about land -> ban -> deny by payment status for all parcels
  • Ability to modify about land -> options settings for all parcels
  • Ability to modify about land -> objects settings for all parcels (e.g. auto-return)
  • Ability to return objects on land (including "all objects owned by avatar X"!)
  • Ability to terraform anywhere
  • Ability to terraform whilst ignoring the "terraform limit" on the sim. (NEW)

Estate / Region

  • Ability to send a message to the region
  • Ability to restart the region
  • Ability to change agent limit / object bonus / maturity
  • Ability to change other sim-wide overrides, like "no push" and "no pay info on file"
  • Ability to change telehubs
  • Ability to teleport home one user
  • Ablity to teleport home all users

Estate / Debug

  • Ability to disable physics/collisions/scripts sim-wide
  • Ability to return/delete all of avatar X's objects on the sim
  • Ability to use get top colliders/scripts panels

Estate / Ground Textures

  • Ability to modify ground textures
  • Ability to modify texture blend values

Estate / Terrain

  • Ability to upload terrain files
  • Ability to download terrain files
  • Ability to bake terrain
  • Ability to change sea level
  • Ability to change terraform limits
  • Ability to alter sun settings

Estate / Estate

  • Ability for modify the permissions of other EMs (excluding themselves) (NEW)
  • Ability to modify the estate ban list
  • Ability to modify the estate access list
  • Ability to change estate time
  • Ability to change estate public access setting
  • Ability to change estate direct teleport setting
  • Ability to change estate payinfo setting
  • Ability to kick a user from the estate (if enabled, right clicking adds a "TP Home" option to the pie menu, which when used sends the target home and pops up an "add to estate ban list?" prompt - NEW)
  • Ability to send a message to the estate

If we had the above permissions system, then we could appoint more estate managers to help us run sims, resulting in a better user experience for Second Life residents.
Currently, giving someone estate manager status pretty much gives them the keys to the castle. Under a system like this, we could give them only the permissions they need to do their jobs.
This would result in more effective governance of sims, as estate owners would be more likely to appoint more estate managers, and those estate managers would be more focussed on jobs they were appointed to do.
It would also close quite a few security holes - estate managers as they are now can wreak havoc on a sim if their account is compromised or if they simply go nuts one day. Under this permissions system, that would be far less likely. Under the permissions system things would be a lot more convenient for the sim owners, as well as a lot safer.

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Simon Nolan added a comment - 19/May/07 10:37 AM
Changing from "Critical" to "Normal" as this doesn't involve a crash, loss of data, or severe memory leak as defined by the "Critical" priority. A possible work around might involve these abilities that are available for groups, but that might be tedious and require deeding parcels to groups, breaking individual land ownership on a sim, and probably wouldn't address #2 at all.

Simon Nolan made changes - 19/May/07 10:37 AM
Field Original Value New Value
Priority Critical [ 2 ] Normal [ 4 ]
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yukiko omegamu added a comment - 20/May/07 09:55 PM
sorry simon this is for private estate sims only option this has no way for group control to be able to do what your saying deeding to the group is alright but for some only estate managers and owners can restart and do alot of the sim estate settings

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Angel Fluffy added a comment - 22/Jul/07 06:03 PM
I like the general idea of a flexible permissions system for estate managers, assigned by the estate owner.

I have edited this proposal slightly to improve the wording.
There are still some parts that don't make sense to me, however (such as 'being able to resign without being kicked' being a permission, that to me sounds like a right every estate manager should have).
I've left these parts in, to avoid very much changing the proposal without the proposer's permission.


Angel Fluffy made changes - 22/Jul/07 06:03 PM
Description this is probly one over due feature that would greatly improve the estate managment tools for estate managers

1. ability to have estate owners choose the premission levels of the mangers they choose
2. ability to reclaim land if sim owner is gone for long period of time if persons teir is over due]
3. ability to set the premissions and access to closed of f sim land
4. ability to set group access and access list
5. an estate manager control panel simalar to estate/region with less options
6. ability to return prims on land not owned
7.ability to eject freeze and teleport home user on pie menu for estate managers and owners
8. ability to leave estate powers if needed too without sim owner kicking person out of it with email and im stateing he or she leaveing the admin group and powers
9. better tools for estate owners and managers needed 		There needs to be a flexible system of permissions for estate managers.
Estate owners should be able to assign their managers any combination of permissions, including the following new ones :
1) Ability for modify the permissions of other EMs
2) Ability to reclaim land
3) Ability to modify access list and ban list settings for land
4) Ability to modify all land settings
5) Ability to change sim settings
6) Access to the region/estate control panel
7) Ability to freeze/eject/TPhome people anywhere on the sim
8) Ability to resign from EM status
9) Ability to modify the estate ban list.

In general, better tools are needed for Estate owners and managers.

There are MANY instances where you want to give people permission to, for example, modify the estate ban list, without allowing them to terraform anywhere, change sim settings, etc.

The above would be a good start to a flexible permissions system for estate managers.
Priority Normal [ 4 ] Major [ 3 ]
Angel Fluffy made changes - 22/Jul/07 06:50 PM
Link This issue is related to by SVC-301 [ SVC-301 ]
Angel Fluffy made changes - 22/Jul/07 07:20 PM
Link This issue is related to by SVC-301 [ SVC-301 ]
Angel Fluffy made changes - 22/Jul/07 07:28 PM
Link This issue is related to by SVC-241 [ SVC-241 ]
Angel Fluffy made changes - 22/Jul/07 10:11 PM
Summary estate manager premission levels for private islands flexible custom permissions for estate managers
Description There needs to be a flexible system of permissions for estate managers.
Estate owners should be able to assign their managers any combination of permissions, including the following new ones :
1) Ability for modify the permissions of other EMs
2) Ability to reclaim land
3) Ability to modify access list and ban list settings for land
4) Ability to modify all land settings
5) Ability to change sim settings
6) Access to the region/estate control panel
7) Ability to freeze/eject/TPhome people anywhere on the sim
8) Ability to resign from EM status
9) Ability to modify the estate ban list.

In general, better tools are needed for Estate owners and managers.

There are MANY instances where you want to give people permission to, for example, modify the estate ban list, without allowing them to terraform anywhere, change sim settings, etc.

The above would be a good start to a flexible permissions system for estate managers. 		Estate owners should be able to assign their managers any combination of the following permissions :

Parcels
* Immunity to parcel ejects, bans, and access lines of all types, also, cannot be teleported home (NEW)
* Ability to reclaim land back into the hands of the estate owner
* Ability to set land owned by the estate owner as for sale, including sale details
* Ability to modify about land -> ban -> deny by payment status for all parcels
* Ability to modify about land -> options settings for all parcels
* Ability to modify about land -> objects settings for all parcels (e.g. auto-return)
* Ability to return objects on land (including "all objects owned by avatar X"!)
* Ability to terraform anywhere
* Ability to terraform whilst ignoring the "terraform limit" on the sim. (NEW)

Estate / Region
* Ability to send a message to the region
* Ability to restart the region
* Ability to change agent limit / object bonus / maturity
* Ability to change other sim-wide overrides, like "no push" and "no pay info on file"
* Ability to change telehubs
* Ability to teleport home one user
* Ablity to teleport home all users

Estate / Debug
* Ability to disable physics/collisions/scripts sim-wide
* Ability to return/delete all of avatar X's objects on the sim
* Ability to use get top colliders/scripts panels

Estate / Ground Textures
* Ability to modify ground textures
* Ability to modify texture blend values

Estate / Terrain
* Ability to upload terrain files
* Ability to download terrain files
* Ability to bake terrain
* Ability to change sea level
* Ability to change terraform limits
* Ability to alter sun settings

Estate / Estate
* Ability for modify the permissions of other EMs (excluding themselves) (NEW)
* Ability to modify the estate ban list
* Ability to modify the estate access list
* Ability to change estate time
* Ability to change estate public access setting
* Ability to change estate direct teleport setting
* Ability to change estate payinfo setting
* Ability to kick a user from the estate (if enabled, right clicking adds a "TP Home" option to the pie menu, which when used sends the target home and pops up an "add to estate ban list?" prompt - NEW)
* Ability to send a message to the estate

If we had the above permissions system, then we could appoint more estate managers to help us run sims, resulting in a better user experience for Second Life residents.
Currently, giving someone estate manager status pretty much gives them the keys to the castle. Under a system like this, we could give them only the permissions they need to do their jobs.
This would result in more effective governance of sims, as estate owners would be more likely to appoint more estate managers, and those estate managers would be more focussed on jobs they were appointed to do.
It would also close quite a few security holes - estate managers as they are now can wreak havoc on a sim if their account is compromised or if they simply go nuts one day. Under this permissions system, that would be far less likely. Under the permissions system things would be a lot more convenient for the sim owners, as well as a lot safer.
Angel Fluffy made changes - 23/Jul/07 03:32 PM
Link This issue is related to by SVC-456 [ SVC-456 ]
Angel Fluffy made changes - 23/Jul/07 03:32 PM
Link This issue is related to by SVC-241 [ SVC-241 ]
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Rudolph Ormsby added a comment - 26/Jul/07 10:33 AM
These features are not needed as a flexible set of options for "hired staff". If you want to give estate controls to someone, give them someone you trust, and teach them how to use them.

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yukiko omegamu added a comment - 01/Aug/07 11:22 AM
these options are to help improve the ability for estate managers and owners as estate owners are afride that they could be banned from their own sim sometimes so it helps too have features that prevent such things from happening and limit the stuff people abuse

yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 09:53 PM
Link This issue is duplicated by MISC-186 [ MISC-186 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to MISC-468 [ MISC-468 ]
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yukiko omegamu added a comment - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
added issues relateing too this one

yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-243 [ SVC-243 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to WEB-136 [ WEB-136 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to MISC-313 [ MISC-313 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to MISC-136 [ MISC-136 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-508 [ SVC-508 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-541 [ SVC-541 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-217 [ SVC-217 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1649 [ VWR-1649 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-456 [ SVC-456 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-452 [ SVC-452 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1750 [ VWR-1750 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1363 [ VWR-1363 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-2075 [ VWR-2075 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-451 [ SVC-451 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-79 [ SVC-79 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-538 [ VWR-538 ]
yukiko omegamu made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1643 [ VWR-1643 ]
Angel Fluffy made changes - 10/Nov/07 02:53 PM
Link This issue is duplicated by MISC-186 [ MISC-186 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 01:12 AM
Workflow jira [ 11537 ] jira-2007-12-21 [ 21248 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 01:33 AM
Workflow jira [ 21248 ] jira-2007-12-21 [ 22464 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 02:54 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-21 [ 22464 ] jira-2007-12-22 [ 30207 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 03:14 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-21 [ 30207 ] jira-2007-12-22 [ 31467 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 07:58 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22 [ 31467 ] jira-2007-12-22a [ 37102 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 08:16 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22 [ 37102 ] jira-2007-12-22a [ 38055 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 09:13 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22 [ 38055 ] jira-2007-12-22a [ 41014 ]
Rob Linden made changes - 22/Dec/07 09:31 PM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22 [ 41014 ] jira-2007-12-22a [ 41921 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:13 AM
Affects Version/s 1.19.0.5 [ 10260 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:15 AM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-217 [ SVC-217 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:15 AM
Link This issue Relates to MISC-313 [ MISC-313 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:15 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-2075 [ VWR-2075 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:15 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1643 [ VWR-1643 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:16 AM
Link This issue Relates to WEB-136 [ WEB-136 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:16 AM
Link This issue Relates to MISC-468 [ MISC-468 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:16 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1363 [ VWR-1363 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:16 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-538 [ VWR-538 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:16 AM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-508 [ SVC-508 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:16 AM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-243 [ SVC-243 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:16 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-1750 [ VWR-1750 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:17 AM
Link This issue Relates to MISC-136 [ MISC-136 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:17 AM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-451 [ SVC-451 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:17 AM
Link This issue Relates to SVC-452 [ SVC-452 ]
Mercia Mcmahon made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:17 AM
Link This issue is related to by SVC-456 [ SVC-456 ]
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Mercia Mcmahon added a comment - 20/Mar/08 10:23 AM
Yes, I would like to give those who rent an entire region the right to be managers of just that region, but more importantly to be able to change the settings that affect them (sun etc), but not those that affect me (resell ability, water height, access). At the minute it is all or nothing, and nothing is the only safe option for me.

PS, removed almost all links as they were to general estate management issues, not roles for estate managers.


yukiko omegamu made changes - 29/Aug/08 04:51 PM
Issue Type New Feature [ 2 ] Meta Issue [ 6 ]
Affects Version/s 1.19.1.4 [ 10290 ]
Affects Version/s 1.20 [ 10350 ]
Affects Version/s 1.21 Public Nightly [ 10352 ]
Affects Version/s Source code [ 10012 ]
Affects Version/s 1.21 Release Candidate [ 10360 ]
Reacher Rau made changes - 05/Oct/08 11:29 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-9562 [ VWR-9562 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 10:59 AM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22a [ 41921 ] jira-2008-11-14 [ 61769 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 11:15 AM
Workflow jira-2007-12-22a [ 61769 ] jira-2008-11-14 [ 66802 ]
Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:29 PM
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Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:39 PM
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Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:03 PM
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Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:51 PM
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Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 06:10 PM
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Sue Linden made changes - 13/Nov/08 06:26 PM
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