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Key: VWR-6314
Type: Sub-task Sub-task
Status: Open Open
Priority: Normal Normal
Assignee: Unassigned
Reporter: lakota howlett
Votes: 9
Watchers: 7
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VWR-1978

Latest Mac Book Pro GeForce VRAM 512

Created: 10/Apr/08 11:27 AM   Updated: 24/Jul/08 01:25 PM
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Component/s: None
Affects Version/s: 1.19.1.4
Fix Version/s: None

Environment: Mac Book Pro 8600M GT VRAM 512


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Even with the addition of VRAM I am experiencing the typing in IM lag that others have written about. I am averaging 20 seconds every 5 - 10 minutes.
I can be walking, driving a boat or car and the beach ball pops up and no telling when I finally come back where i will be - the SL action keeps rolling it seems. I have come back and been nose against walls, in the bushes, you name it. There does seem to be some correlation between where i have just TP'd from and the frequency of the "hangs"
I always tend to come back after waiting for the beach ball and only last night did I physically crash twice. I also have a laptop fan under the Mac book Pro to keep things cool
One other think I am also experience graphic "flashing" with regard to water of SL when I am in mouselook and pan my view - the water flashes from the water texture to white and then quickly back again this happened several times last night as well.

I realize i am pushing my luck running at graphic performance set to high and a draw distance as 128. I have atmospheric shaders on and water reflections set to off. I can not run this in Low i spent too much money on this computer not to get excellent graphics.

One last thing I am going to try running the OpenGL Xcode work around and see if this helps my experience at all.



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Radar Masukami added a comment - 13/Apr/08 05:48 PM - edited
Same thing here... I get beachballs every couple minutes lasting up to 30 seconds... it makes doing anything at ALL almost impossible. Even conversations while standing still, never mind the flying, driving, etc, that I used to enjoy.

For mac owners, SL is becoming INCREDIBLY frustrating.

Hardware:

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.5 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP41.00C1.B00
SMC Version: 1.27f1
Serial Number: W88XXXXXXXX
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled

Graphics/Displays:

GeForce 8600M GT:

Chipset Model: GeForce 8600M GT
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0407
Revision ID: 0x00a1
ROM Revision: 3212
Displays:
Color LCD:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1440 x 900
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Display Connector:
Status: No display connected

Memory:

BANK 0/DIMM0:

Size: 2 GB
Type: DDR2 SDRAM
Speed: 667 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x7F7F7F7F7FF70000
Part Number: 0x00004B363435365536314535363637460000
Serial Number: 0x00000000

BANK 1/DIMM1:

Size: 2 GB
Type: DDR2 SDRAM
Speed: 667 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x7F7F7F7F7FF70000
Part Number: 0x00004B363435365536314535363637460000
Serial Number: 0x00000000


Smallhands Doobie added a comment - 25/May/08 07:00 PM
I have MacBook Pro 2.5Ghz 512MB VRAM machine very similar to Radar Masukami's machine.

The period between which the freezes happen seem to vary, though anecdotally seems to happen more quickly when chatting.

I've determined that the machine itself is still responsive..... I can switch to another application and it will operate without problem.

I just noted that there is a fix pending..... I don't know when that or some other remedy will be available - BUT, for those effected this is a MAJOR snag.... makes it basically impossible to have interactions, games or combat....

I really hope the fix will be released soon.... totally killing me....

Thanks....


Smallhands Doobie added a comment - 29/May/08 05:13 PM
Given the fact that SL was nearly unusable from my MacBook Pro I took the plunge and installed 10.5.3.

I was pleasantly surprised to find significant improvement on the issue.

It is not entirely solved.... still get periodic "stalls" or freezes.... but rather than 20 - 30 seconds they are 2 - 3 and much less often...

Would love to have a 100% solution, but at least I can use the machine for SL now... hopefully a future revision will completely solve the issue.

Thanks...


Costa Kornberg added a comment - 17/Jun/08 12:18 PM
I have a 2.2 GHz w/128 VRAM and 8600GT chipset. Running 10.5.3. My experience is very variable running both 1.19.1.4 and 1.20 RC3 (I usually run the later).

I can sometimes go for an hour without a lag if I am in a low to moderate animation and avatar environment. Especially just chatting with a group. But other times I will have a lag or even a lock up in the same sim. Usually it is a 20-30 sec lag, less often (but usually at least once a session) it is a slowing that affects my whole system such that it may take several minutes to get a force quit implemented. Once I force quit the computer behaves fine.

I have tried the Nicholaz mods and other suggested modifications to the graphics settings with little success.

I am using the OpenGL fix pretty regularly now and it seems to be helping but not fixing the problem. I still have lags and lockups but less often. I find I can visit animation rich sims like Inspire Space Park and last a while. I still cannot keep video and streaming live music going for long.

I guess it goes without saying that this is influenced by the number of open apps and other operations underway. However, it is not always correlated. I can have only SL running and have the same problem.

Anxious for a real fix from Apple or Linden.


Costa Kornberg added a comment - 17/Jun/08 03:41 PM
Sorry, got the versions of SL wrong in the last post. That should be 1.20RC10. Thanks.

Dolfke Barbosa added a comment - 13/Jul/08 07:49 AM
its even still unassigned, are Mac users so unimportant to Linden Labs ?

Smallhands Doobie added a comment - 14/Jul/08 10:45 AM
I have noticed that the single most impacting parameter on this is the view distance. I can minimize the frequency of this problem by setting my draw distance to 64 meters.... which sucks.... but, is better than the alternative which are hangs that really destroy my ability to enjoy and experience Second Life.

I've found the same problem is continuing with the release candidate, but I've not had time to test and report thoroughly....

If you are experiencing this problem... PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE try the release candidate and REPORT!

For users effected by this problem it is a CRITICAL problem.

Thanks,

Smallhands


Costa Kornberg added a comment - 24/Jul/08 01:25 PM
I have recently switched to the OnRez viewer and have had only very rare crashes, perhaps two in 20 hours logged. Those crashes did not occur in graphics rich environments as was characteristic of the crashes I was having with the SL viewers. I should say that I am not doing any significant building or anything more than interacting with the environment and other avs. Also, the graphics representations in the OnRez viewer are not as rich as the sl viewers but, hey, to be able to go through a whole evening inworld without a crash is worth a lot of lost features.

Costa