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VWR-5075
Dazzle is just crap for childs. (sorry)
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VWR-7064
the RC Second Life 1.20.5 (86279) is not color blind friendly
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VWR-6633
Skin from 1.20 looks bad and is hard to see
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VWR-6270
Make Dazzle Optional (delay intro until UI is skinnable and users have choices)
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VWR-5080
Dazzle: certain color combinations hard on visually impaired (and the not-visually-impaired)
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VWR-457 Add a 'skin selector' and supporting logic to allow a user to select an xul skin to use for an SL session
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VWR-6219
Dazzle: Merge Windlight into the Dazzle Firstlook
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VWR-6880
1.20 - Every client update overwrites user-edited skin files
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VWR-6027 Skinning: Phase 1 Widget Cleanup
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SVC-305 Meta-Issue: Unpopular changes
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After I saw Dazzle being released as "official" firstlook client today, there is something I noticed, which could save LL a LOT - and believe me, I mean a lot - of uproar in the community.
The fact that the new UI will eventually become mandatory with currently no alternative except modded XML files is a hard one to digest, at least to me.
Im one of those who /love/ the way SL looks now and really prefer the darker look over the new one. The new one IMO is hard to read, and the blue-silverish colors and rectangular buttons make SL look incredibly cheap to me, as much as I hate to say it. ontop of that - and I realize this is somewhat a minor issue and only to me right now - the new bright look would clash extremely with my rather darkly skinned windows UI (using the official Zune theme, since its nice on the eyes).
Thus my suggestions:
- DONT release Dazzle as mandatory viewer UNTIL you have full-blown skinning support included, tested and working.
- include BOTH the new Dazzle skin as well as the old SL skin into the release to prevent flames from the community
- make it easy and simple to install, manage and swap skins from inside the viewer, so everyone can easily pick what they want their client to look like
and optional, for extra neatness, an idea ball:
- code the new skins so that they can support recoloring for certain elements (like widget background, button colors, text colors (the latter being already kind of possible right now)) - this would allow for even more customization
I always try and embrace the progress LL is making openly, and most of the time, the changes are quite awesome. yet I believe LL could save themselves a LOT of stress and angry customers if they took care of the three suggestions listed above.
Additional Comment: "Dazzle" forces the Second Life interface to jarringly resemble Microsoft Windows Vista, which resembles MacOSX. While Mac OSX is great if one has Mac OSX (I love Apple, sure, they are great), since I am using a Windows machine, and since others are using the Linux interface, and since the Dazzle/Vista/MacOSX "look" FORCES us to relearn using the SL interface, and get used to it, I will have to say I am quite happy with the way the Second Life interface looks right now. It is simple and elegant, and the Dazzle interface needs to be an optional skin, and not forced upon us Second Life users even when the day comes that all of us are forced to use Vista on our PCs because Windows XP becomes hopelessly out of date and technologically obsolete. Please Make the "Dazzle" Interface optional and DO NOT force it upon all of us Second Life users.
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Description
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After I saw Dazzle being released as "official" firstlook client today, there is something I noticed, which could save LL a LOT - and believe me, I mean a lot - of uproar in the community.
The fact that the new UI will eventually become mandatory with currently no alternative except modded XML files is a hard one to digest, at least to me.
Im one of those who /love/ the way SL looks now and really prefer the darker look over the new one. The new one IMO is hard to read, and the blue-silverish colors and rectangular buttons make SL look incredibly cheap to me, as much as I hate to say it. ontop of that - and I realize this is somewhat a minor issue and only to me right now - the new bright look would clash extremely with my rather darkly skinned windows UI (using the official Zune theme, since its nice on the eyes).
Thus my suggestions:
- DONT release Dazzle as mandatory viewer UNTIL you have full-blown skinning support included, tested and working.
- include BOTH the new Dazzle skin as well as the old SL skin into the release to prevent flames from the community
- make it easy and simple to install, manage and swap skins from inside the viewer, so everyone can easily pick what they want their client to look like
and optional, for extra neatness, an idea ball:
- code the new skins so that they can support recoloring for certain elements (like widget background, button colors, text colors (the latter being already kind of possible right now)) - this would allow for even more customization
I always try and embrace the progress LL is making openly, and most of the time, the changes are quite awesome. yet I believe LL could save themselves a LOT of stress and angry customers if they took care of the three suggestions listed above.
Additional Comment: "Dazzle" forces the Second Life interface to jarringly resemble Microsoft Windows Vista, which resembles MacOSX. While Mac OSX is great if one has Mac OSX (I love Apple, sure, they are great), since I am using a Windows machine, and since others are using the Linux interface, and since the Dazzle/Vista/MacOSX "look" FORCES us to relearn using the SL interface, and get used to it, I will have to say I am quite happy with the way the Second Life interface looks right now. It is simple and elegant, and the Dazzle interface needs to be an optional skin, and not forced upon us Second Life users even when the day comes that all of us are forced to use Vista on our PCs because Windows XP becomes hopelessly out of date and technologically obsolete. Please Make the "Dazzle" Interface optional and DO NOT force it upon all of us Second Life users. |
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made changes - 23/Feb/08 12:41 PM
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General Dazzle Policy Suggestion
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Ability to switch between new/old theme from within SL
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made changes - 28/Feb/08 02:22 PM
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Summary
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Ability to switch between new/old theme from within SL
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Dazzle: Ability to switch between new/old theme from within SL
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Critical
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made changes - 28/Feb/08 02:22 PM
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Linden Lab Issue ID
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DEV-11200
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made changes - 10/Mar/08 10:04 AM
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This issue Relates to VWR-5080
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made changes - 03/Apr/08 03:23 PM
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This issue is related to by VWR-6027
[ VWR-6027
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made changes - 10/Apr/08 04:30 AM
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This issue is duplicated by VWR-6270
[ VWR-6270
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made changes - 10/Apr/08 08:29 AM
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Affects Version/s
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1.20 Release Candidate
[ 10300
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made changes - 10/Apr/08 09:18 AM
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This issue Relates to VWR-6301
[ VWR-6301
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made changes - 10/Apr/08 10:24 PM
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This issue is related to by SVC-305
[ SVC-305
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made changes - 17/Apr/08 10:23 AM
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This issue is duplicated by VWR-6633
[ VWR-6633
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made changes - 19/Apr/08 08:37 AM
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This issue Relates to VWR-6301
[ VWR-6301
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made changes - 20/Apr/08 03:49 AM
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Source Version
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1.20 RC2
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Patch attached
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[Patch attached]
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made changes - 21/Apr/08 02:06 PM
made changes - 25/Apr/08 09:36 PM
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This issue is related to by VWR-6880
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made changes - 04/May/08 04:42 PM
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This issue is duplicated by VWR-7064
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made changes - 21/May/08 05:25 AM
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This issue is duplicated by VWR-7307
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made changes - 22/May/08 05:40 AM
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This issue duplicates VWR-6270
[ VWR-6270
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made changes - 22/May/08 05:41 AM
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This issue duplicates VWR-6219
[ VWR-6219
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made changes - 22/May/08 05:42 AM
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This issue Relates to VWR-6219
[ VWR-6219
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made changes - 22/May/08 05:43 AM
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This issue duplicates VWR-6219
[ VWR-6219
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made changes - 22/May/08 05:44 AM
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This issue is duplicated by VWR-5075
[ VWR-5075
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made changes - 22/May/08 05:44 AM
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This issue duplicates VWR-6270
[ VWR-6270
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made changes - 22/May/08 05:54 AM
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Environment
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Windows XP and all other systems (Vista, Linux, MacOSX)
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Description
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After I saw Dazzle being released as "official" firstlook client today, there is something I noticed, which could save LL a LOT - and believe me, I mean a lot - of uproar in the community.
The fact that the new UI will eventually become mandatory with currently no alternative except modded XML files is a hard one to digest, at least to me.
Im one of those who /love/ the way SL looks now and really prefer the darker look over the new one. The new one IMO is hard to read, and the blue-silverish colors and rectangular buttons make SL look incredibly cheap to me, as much as I hate to say it. ontop of that - and I realize this is somewhat a minor issue and only to me right now - the new bright look would clash extremely with my rather darkly skinned windows UI (using the official Zune theme, since its nice on the eyes).
Thus my suggestions:
- DONT release Dazzle as mandatory viewer UNTIL you have full-blown skinning support included, tested and working.
- include BOTH the new Dazzle skin as well as the old SL skin into the release to prevent flames from the community
- make it easy and simple to install, manage and swap skins from inside the viewer, so everyone can easily pick what they want their client to look like
and optional, for extra neatness, an idea ball:
- code the new skins so that they can support recoloring for certain elements (like widget background, button colors, text colors (the latter being already kind of possible right now)) - this would allow for even more customization
I always try and embrace the progress LL is making openly, and most of the time, the changes are quite awesome. yet I believe LL could save themselves a LOT of stress and angry customers if they took care of the three suggestions listed above.
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After I saw Dazzle being released as "official" firstlook client today, there is something I noticed, which could save LL a LOT - and believe me, I mean a lot - of uproar in the community.
The fact that the new UI will eventually become mandatory with currently no alternative except modded XML files is a hard one to digest, at least to me.
Im one of those who /love/ the way SL looks now and really prefer the darker look over the new one. The new one IMO is hard to read, and the blue-silverish colors and rectangular buttons make SL look incredibly cheap to me, as much as I hate to say it. ontop of that - and I realize this is somewhat a minor issue and only to me right now - the new bright look would clash extremely with my rather darkly skinned windows UI (using the official Zune theme, since its nice on the eyes).
Thus my suggestions:
- DONT release Dazzle as mandatory viewer UNTIL you have full-blown skinning support included, tested and working.
- include BOTH the new Dazzle skin as well as the old SL skin into the release to prevent flames from the community
- make it easy and simple to install, manage and swap skins from inside the viewer, so everyone can easily pick what they want their client to look like
and optional, for extra neatness, an idea ball:
- code the new skins so that they can support recoloring for certain elements (like widget background, button colors, text colors (the latter being already kind of possible right now)) - this would allow for even more customization
I always try and embrace the progress LL is making openly, and most of the time, the changes are quite awesome. yet I believe LL could save themselves a LOT of stress and angry customers if they took care of the three suggestions listed above.
Additional Comment: "Dazzle" forces the Second Life interface to jarringly resemble Microsoft Windows Vista, which resembles MacOSX. While Mac OSX is great if one has Mac OSX (I love Apple, sure, they are great), since I am using a Windows machine, and since others are using theLinux interface, and since the Dazzle/Vista/MacOSX "look" FORCES us to relearn using the SL interface, and get used to it, I will have to say I am quite happy with the way the Second Life interface looks right now. It is simple and elegant, and the Dazzle interface needs to be an optional skin, and not forced upon us Second Life users even when the day comes that all of us are forced to use Vista on our PCs because Windows XP becomes hopelessly out of date and technologically obsolete. Please Make the "Dazzle" Interface optional and DO NOT force it upon all of us Second Life users.
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Summary
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Dazzle: Ability to switch between new/old theme from within SL
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Dazzle: Ability to switch between new/old theme from within SL (Ability to Disable "Dazzle" Look-and-Feel)
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made changes - 22/May/08 05:58 AM
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Environment
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Windows XP and all other systems (Vista, Linux, MacOSX)
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Windows XP and all other systems (Vista, Linux, MacOSX), and BOTH the normal release and the Release Candidate (RC) versions of the SL client.
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Description
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After I saw Dazzle being released as "official" firstlook client today, there is something I noticed, which could save LL a LOT - and believe me, I mean a lot - of uproar in the community.
The fact that the new UI will eventually become mandatory with currently no alternative except modded XML files is a hard one to digest, at least to me.
Im one of those who /love/ the way SL looks now and really prefer the darker look over the new one. The new one IMO is hard to read, and the blue-silverish colors and rectangular buttons make SL look incredibly cheap to me, as much as I hate to say it. ontop of that - and I realize this is somewhat a minor issue and only to me right now - the new bright look would clash extremely with my rather darkly skinned windows UI (using the official Zune theme, since its nice on the eyes).
Thus my suggestions:
- DONT release Dazzle as mandatory viewer UNTIL you have full-blown skinning support included, tested and working.
- include BOTH the new Dazzle skin as well as the old SL skin into the release to prevent flames from the community
- make it easy and simple to install, manage and swap skins from inside the viewer, so everyone can easily pick what they want their client to look like
and optional, for extra neatness, an idea ball:
- code the new skins so that they can support recoloring for certain elements (like widget background, button colors, text colors (the latter being already kind of possible right now)) - this would allow for even more customization
I always try and embrace the progress LL is making openly, and most of the time, the changes are quite awesome. yet I believe LL could save themselves a LOT of stress and angry customers if they took care of the three suggestions listed above.
Additional Comment: "Dazzle" forces the Second Life interface to jarringly resemble Microsoft Windows Vista, which resembles MacOSX. While Mac OSX is great if one has Mac OSX (I love Apple, sure, they are great), since I am using a Windows machine, and since others are using theLinux interface, and since the Dazzle/Vista/MacOSX "look" FORCES us to relearn using the SL interface, and get used to it, I will have to say I am quite happy with the way the Second Life interface looks right now. It is simple and elegant, and the Dazzle interface needs to be an optional skin, and not forced upon us Second Life users even when the day comes that all of us are forced to use Vista on our PCs because Windows XP becomes hopelessly out of date and technologically obsolete. Please Make the "Dazzle" Interface optional and DO NOT force it upon all of us Second Life users.
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After I saw Dazzle being released as "official" firstlook client today, there is something I noticed, which could save LL a LOT - and believe me, I mean a lot - of uproar in the community.
The fact that the new UI will eventually become mandatory with currently no alternative except modded XML files is a hard one to digest, at least to me.
Im one of those who /love/ the way SL looks now and really prefer the darker look over the new one. The new one IMO is hard to read, and the blue-silverish colors and rectangular buttons make SL look incredibly cheap to me, as much as I hate to say it. ontop of that - and I realize this is somewhat a minor issue and only to me right now - the new bright look would clash extremely with my rather darkly skinned windows UI (using the official Zune theme, since its nice on the eyes).
Thus my suggestions:
- DONT release Dazzle as mandatory viewer UNTIL you have full-blown skinning support included, tested and working.
- include BOTH the new Dazzle skin as well as the old SL skin into the release to prevent flames from the community
- make it easy and simple to install, manage and swap skins from inside the viewer, so everyone can easily pick what they want their client to look like
and optional, for extra neatness, an idea ball:
- code the new skins so that they can support recoloring for certain elements (like widget background, button colors, text colors (the latter being already kind of possible right now)) - this would allow for even more customization
I always try and embrace the progress LL is making openly, and most of the time, the changes are quite awesome. yet I believe LL could save themselves a LOT of stress and angry customers if they took care of the three suggestions listed above.
Additional Comment: "Dazzle" forces the Second Life interface to jarringly resemble Microsoft Windows Vista, which resembles MacOSX. While Mac OSX is great if one has Mac OSX (I love Apple, sure, they are great), since I am using a Windows machine, and since others are using the Linux interface, and since the Dazzle/Vista/MacOSX "look" FORCES us to relearn using the SL interface, and get used to it, I will have to say I am quite happy with the way the Second Life interface looks right now. It is simple and elegant, and the Dazzle interface needs to be an optional skin, and not forced upon us Second Life users even when the day comes that all of us are forced to use Vista on our PCs because Windows XP becomes hopelessly out of date and technologically obsolete. Please Make the "Dazzle" Interface optional and DO NOT force it upon all of us Second Life users.
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made changes - 05/Jun/08 05:25 PM
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[ I had gotten used to Dazzle (at least, I was content with it) but after trying out the classic and dark skins available on the wiki, my eyes cried out in joy... the darker schemes (in my opinion anyway) really are much more comfortable, and as someone pointed out the bright dazzle color really stands out, when it should be the content in world that gets the users focus.
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made changes - 19/Jun/08 04:38 PM
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Last Triaged
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made changes - 25/Jun/08 12:24 PM
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Link
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This issue Relates to VWR-457
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made changes - 25/Jun/08 02:09 PM
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Assignee
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WorkingOnIt Linden
[ WorkingOnIt Linden
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Linden Lab Issue ID
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DEV-11200
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DEV-17069
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made changes - 10/Jul/08 01:44 PM
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Open
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Fix Pending
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Linden Lab Internal Branch
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Branch_1-20-Viewer-2
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made changes - 11/Jul/08 09:51 AM
made changes - 11/Jul/08 01:02 PM
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Fix Pending
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Resolved
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Fixed
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made changes - 24/Jul/08 02:47 PM
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Resolved
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Resolved
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Fix Version/s
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1.20
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 11:19 AM
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Workflow
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jira-2007-12-22a
[ 52527
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jira-2008-11-14
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:32 PM
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Workflow
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jira-2008-11-14
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jira-2008-11-14a
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 05:58 PM
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Workflow
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jira-2008-11-14
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jira-2008-11-14a
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 06:13 PM
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Workflow
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jira-2008-11-14
[ 118277
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jira-2008-11-14a
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 06:36 PM
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Workflow
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jira-2008-11-14
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jira-2008-11-14a
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New Feature
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