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A couple of updates back I started having problems with lag and friends notifications, however, I was able to fix this by un-checking "Show Online Friend Notification" or by simply relogging. Today (Weds, Feb 6th) I downloaded the new 1.19.0 Windlight client and again, I started lagging real bad whenever friends came online or went offline, I tried doing the usual and unchecked the "Show Online Friend Notification" box under my general tab, but it won't work. No matter what I do, I still lag every time a friend comes online or goes offline.
I tested the viewer with the "Show Online Friend Notification" box checked, and walked in circles till a friend came online, and the minute a notification popped up I froze and lagged. I have cleared me cache, uninstalled and reinstalled secondlife, upgraded my drivers, restarted my pc, relogged- but the problem still persists. This is a critical issue, at least to me it is, I simply can't stay logged on if I lag every few minutes. Second Life 1.19.0 (79185) Feb 1 2008 16:24:20 (Second Life WindLight) Second Life Server 1.19.0.79136 CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (Unknown model) (2992 MHz) Memory: 3071 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 7600 GT/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 2.1.2 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 1062/100362 (1.1%) I tried disabling notifcations now im just crashing and randomly lagging. This is one horrible bug.
This has plagued me in other versions, but with this latest Windlight it makes it almost impossible to use the client. I have exactly the same phenomena, and turning off friends notification does nothing to help me. I would think it has something to do with updating the communications list. A friend tried turning his eyeball on and off and it froze with each change.
I end up running into walls, flinging prims all over, and generally being miserable. I think this far more important than "major." This renders Windlight virtually unusable for me. The regular client has a whole set of problems for me as well, so I am very stuck at the moment. Second Life 1.19.0 (79185) Feb 1 2008 16:24:20 (Second Life WindLight) Second Life Server 1.19.0.79368 CPU: Intel Core 2 Series Processor (1994 MHz) Memory: 2046 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista (Build 6000) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 8600M GS/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 2.1.1 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 82/169342 (0.0%) Just for the record, I am *not* seeing this at all, neither on 1.18.5 or on WindLight or the 1.19.0 RC or even before that.
My info, which might help thinning out the systems with problems (running on Ubuntu 7.10): Second Life 1.19.0 (1) Feb 6 2008 15:15:24 (Second Life Release Candidate) CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz Memory: 1011 MB OS Version: Linux 2.6.22-14-386 #1 Fri Feb 1 04:32:03 UTC 2008 i686 Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce FX Go5200/AGP/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Viewer Digest: fab53780-625f-3a77-f56d-d2060f122806 Windows-only issue perhaps? I tested this on a Second System and found that it's a similar issue with an ATI based graphic card:
Second Life 1.19.0 (79185) Feb 1 2008 16:24:20 (Second Life WindLight) You are at 261719.6, 256687.5, 525.6 in Skiddaw located at sim294.agni.lindenlab.com (8.4.128.170:13006) Second Life Server 1.19.0.79368 CPU: AMD (Unknown model) (1002 MHz) Memory: 2047 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. Graphics Card: Radeon X1300/X1550 Series OpenGL Version: 2.1.7275 Release LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 36/3626 (1.0%) Viewer Digest: b8fbfd92-c572-ea17-ffc8-a752cc5d6904 Precisely the same thing happens on the Intel iMac with an ATI card. It took me a while to understand that it was this (already reported) issue and not something else, since I have disabled online/offline friend notifications ages ago.
Present also on RC 1.19.0.1 and at least WL 1.19.0.79185 CPU: Dual i386 (Unknown) (2000 MHz) Memory: 1024 MB OS Version: Darwin 8.11.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.1: Wed Oct 10 18:23:28 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.25.20~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X1600 OpenGL Engine OpenGL Version: 2.0 ATI-1.4.56 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 40/3532 (1.1%) Viewer Digest: 955b5d24-41ab-4e39-5c54-b43c204533dd I really wish i knew how to fix this. I use secondlife as my job and when I can't work I can't make money so this is a huge loss. I've tried several trouble shooting routs. Using first look was helping me avoid it ,but now we have the same crappy code as the canidate so were having problems.
When you have 2gb of ram and a decent pc this is the last thing I'd expect. My new pc im building is a quad core ,but if these problems persist then theres no point.... CPU: Intel Pentium 4 HT (Unknown model) (2992 MHz) Memory: 2047 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 6800GS /AGP/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 2.1.2 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 1341/321752 (0.4%) Viewer Digest: b8fbfd92-c572-ea17-ffc8-a752cc5d6904 when the small window popup of friend ON or OFF appears, occurs small stopped or frozen in the image, per approximately one or two seconds.
Second Life 1.19.0 (79185) Feb 1 2008 16:24:20 (Second Life WindLight) You are at 252757.9, 317865.4, 597.0 in Plush Theta located at sim214.agni.lindenlab.com (8.4.128.90:13006) Second Life Server 1.19.0.79368 CPU: AMD (Athlon 64 X2) (2310 MHz) Memory: 2047 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista (Build 6000) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! OpenGL Version: 2.1.2 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 1/1103 (0.1%) Viewer Digest: b8fbfd92-c572-ea17-ffc8-a752cc5d6904 Show » Second Life 1.19.0 (79185) Feb 1 2008 16:24:20 (Second Life WindLight) You are at 252757.9, 317865.4, 597.0 in Plush Theta located at sim214.agni.lindenlab.com (8.4.128.90:13006) Second Life Server 1.19.0.79368 CPU: AMD (Athlon 64 X2) (2310 MHz) Memory: 2047 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista (Build 6000) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! OpenGL Version: 2.1.2 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 1/1103 (0.1%) Viewer Digest: b8fbfd92-c572-ea17-ffc8-a752cc5d6904 This sounds irritating! I haven't reproed this yet myself, but I REALLY DO APPRECIATE the multiple independent reports. So thanks Nexeus and everyone, I'm importing this for our devs to look at -- I wonder if it's the same as
How long have you noticed this problem? YAY Torley to the rescue!
This issue is more comprehensive as I noticed this issue initially when Windlight included the fixes of the 1.19 Release Client. I initially thought it was a graphic card problem, and tested it both on a ATI and Nvidia cards (with recent drivers), but the issue persisted on both systems. I also thought this was just a Windlight problem, but it seems the problem resides with the changed made since the 1.19 Release Client. Experiencing this in WindLight as well as the Release Candidate.
Second Life 1.19.0 (79185) Feb 1 2008 16:24:20 (Second Life WindLight) You are at 285557.5, 264813.2, 137.0 in Novgorod located at sim2952.agni.lindenlab.com (64.129.43.194:13004) Second Life Server 1.19.0.79368 CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (Unknown model) (3400 MHz) Memory: 2048 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 7600 GT/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 2.1.2 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 9/7160 (0.1%) Viewer Digest: b8fbfd92-c572-ea17-ffc8-a752cc5d6904 Torley, I've had this problem since the latest Windlight and the latest RC release. The current "stable" release of the viewer is not an option for me because I can't log on with it - the online notifications prevent anything from happening.
I'm in the middle of an fscking 4 sim build. I've tried to port stuff to my other avatar to try carry on work, but I simply have too many resources on my main for this to work. My details of this bug are posted in comments here (along with the support ticket number): http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4855 Thanks for jumping in on this Torley. Timeless - you can also turn off the "Show Online Friend Notifications" in the Preferences, which should help.
Hi Jeska, that was the very first thing I tried. It make absolutely no difference.
I forgot to mention when you turn off friends updates through the client, it does not fix the problem. This was something I tested when I first reported the issue, and forgot to add it (oops!)
Okay, so I did some more testing in the recent Windlight viewer, yes the problem still exists but I think it may be tied to the amount of friends that a person has on their friend list. I went in, and attempted to replicate this problem on an alt with about 10 friends. The problem did not appear, yet on my friend list there are close to 100 (I have not checked exactly how much) friends.
So the question I have is can anyone else confirm that the problem may exist with long friends lists (estimate friends list over 50? 100? 200? or under 10? 20? 30? 40?) Confirmed this is still a problem in today's (79674) windlight release.
I suppose I should probably prune some of the 540+ people out of my friends list, but I freeze up so often it's hard to even manage that. =) Second Life 1.19.0 (79674) Feb 8 2008 16:51:12 (Second Life WindLight) Second Life Server 1.19.0.79368 CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (Unknown model) (3391 MHz) Memory: 2047 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 7800 GTX/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 2.1.2 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 241/35755 (0.7%) Viewer Digest: 3399391e-5c2d-78b2-721e-f28dc9172533 Thanks for the most recent reports -- I hope we can find out what's going on soon, sounds so frustrating.
To confirm: I've seen a few reports of this affecting people in the main viewer (1.18.6) and being an older problem ( @Torley - no I am not seeing this problem appear in the current main viewer.
@Torley, for me, the main viewer has a slightly different issue: when logging on the status updates are synchronous and nothing else happens until online statuses for friends cards are all updated and then what happens next is a lottery between the following: faceplant and stuck; ruthed till relog; red map; objects not rezzing (sounds like packets not being ACKed in time or something). When I asked a Linden what to do, I was asked to use RC and/or Windlight as the solution to this problem. At the time it did get around this issue. But the recent updates to RC and Windlight broke what was my only hope with this bug. I am now seeing hippos in Windlight. Screenshots of the hippos are here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4855
Am currently downloading the latest Windlight to test. Will edit here with results. [Edit] Update: same symptoms with current Windlight viewer. Second Life 1.19.0 (79674) Feb 8 2008 16:51:12 (Second Life WindLight) You are at 278318.9, 254836.9, 21.3 in Delphic located at sim2154.agni.lindenlab.com (64.129.40.158:13005) Second Life Server 1.19.0.79368 CPU: Intel Core 2 Series Processor (2399 MHz) Memory: 2046 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista (Build 6000) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 7950 GT/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 2.1.2 LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000) Packets Lost: 33/4547 (0.7%) Viewer Digest: 3399391e-5c2d-78b2-721e-f28dc9172533 New Windlight (79674), presents the same symptoms of the previous version, freeze..freeze...freeze....... friends changes estatus ON/OFF.
AND ""Turning off notices for friends updates does not alleviate the problem."" Torley-
The only time I recall seeing anything even remotely similar to this in the main viewer was a year or more ago. A 'sky update' event that seemed to cause regular interface hiccups. I did not see this friend-notiication issue was on either win-xp or macosx-tiger prior to 1.19.0. Tested today on the MacBook (Intel GMA 950); the issue seems not to be present on the 1.19.0 RC1.
On an iMac + ATI Radeon X1600, the issue is still present as reported, on WindLight 1.19.0.79674 Good news, Second Life 1.19.0 (2) Feb 12 2008 10:31:26 (Second Life Release Candidate) seems to have the issue fixed! Yahp friends. new version of the client (Second Life Release Candidate 1.19.0 (2)) the issue ** Client Pauses when friend status changes* * does not persists, its fixed.. But in my client (WindLight First Look Viewer: 1.19.0.79674) preferred and steady this issue persists = /
Iam using in both systems XP and Vista Yep, the recent release candidate has fixed this problem, still exists in windlight.
Thanks for the updates -- WindLight is based on the RC and slightly lagging behind, so if this is fixed in RC, then a future WL version should no longer have this issue either.
I would love to get confirmation, but it seems to be fixed in the recent windlight viewer as well!
For me, freezes friends ON/OFF is fixed.. others issue are in verification, but it seems that they had been fixed. \o/
Yay! Able to move freely again!
This is fixed for me in: Second Life 1.19.0 (80044) Feb 15 2008 16:46:46 (Second Life WindLight) Good to know... resolving this for now, reopen if it becomes a problem again!
This issue has returned for me in SL 1.19.1 RC0.
This was solved in my case on 1.19.1 RC0 by a Linden running a fix tool on my inventory. Thanks.
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Bug
Closed
Critical
Viewer freezes upon friend status changes (coming online/offline, giving permissions, etc.)
Second Life 1.18.5 (3) Nov 28 2007 13:59:53 (Second Life Release)
CPU: AMD K7 (Unknown model) (2157 MHz)
Memory: 512 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 6800 GT/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
OpenGL Version: 2.0.3
LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 2870/220826 (1.3%)
Viewer Digest: ffac34f4-0452-2fcc-16b7-c2868f0923ef