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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgment. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchasing your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default response is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to a sale that takes place during the countdown period but is neither approved nor declined by period's end. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgment. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchasing your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default response is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to a sale that takes place during the countdown period but is neither approved nor declined by period's end. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 08:30 AM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase. The dialog identifies the buyer (in larger letters) and the price (also in larger latters) and requests confirmation by the seller.
2. If the purchase was made while the seller is offline, there is a 10 minute (arbtrary, can be extended to a few hours) grace period in which he may logon to use the dialog. An email will be sent upon purchase attempt.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Kashai Steinbeck, and Joshua Nightshade
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase. The dialog identifies the buyer (in larger letters) and the price (also in larger latters) and requests confirmation by the seller.
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have a timeout feature where the seller can allow the sale to automatically lapse if no sale is made by a specified time (short period).
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Kashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 08:31 AM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase. The dialog identifies the buyer (in larger letters) and the price (also in larger latters) and requests confirmation by the seller.
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have a timeout feature where the seller can allow the sale to automatically lapse if no sale is made by a specified time (short period).
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Kashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller.
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have a timeout feature where the seller can allow the sale to automatically lapse if no sale is made by a specified time (short period).
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Kashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 08:32 AM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller.
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have a timeout feature where the seller can allow the sale to automatically lapse if no sale is made by a specified time (short period).
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Kashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have a timeout feature where the seller can allow the sale to automatically lapse if no sale is made by a specified time (short period).
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Kashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 08:49 AM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have a timeout feature where the seller can allow the sale to automatically lapse if no sale is made by a specified time (short period).
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Kashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Kashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 08:50 AM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Kashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 08:51 AM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 08:57 AM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is confirm sale), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 08:58 AM
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The reasoning is that if a seller is offline long enough his itent is to allow anyone to purchase. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 11:52 AM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgement. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchase your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgment. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchasing your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 05/Nov/07 11:56 AM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgment. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchasing your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to an unconfirmed sale that takes place during the countdown period. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgment. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchasing your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to a sale that takes place during the countdown period but is neither approved nor declined by period's end. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 06/Nov/07 06:22 PM
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Description
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgment. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchasing your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to a sale that takes place during the countdown period but is neither approved nor declined by period's end. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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The Problem: The land-sale dialog provides enough security to protect a land-transfer transaction, but because some people are lazy, lax with security, or simply are unaware of the dangers, they are getting scammed out of their land (1L for 4096 sqm for example) by landbots that pick up their land in the middle of their transactions.
We have two approaches we can take: Education or Prevention.
Education hasn't been working because the information does not reach the right residents in a timely manner. This often is caused by a resident simply not reading tutorials and other info outside of the grid, or even just a simple lapse in judgment. At any rate, things are learned too late, when the land is lost.
The Proposal: A confirmation dialog sent to the seller upon purchase of the land. Through the dialog the seller can refuse the purchase attempt.
Details of Proposal:
1. The dialog appears to the seller upon an attempted land purchase and requests confirmation by the seller. Dialog presents in larger bold font to the seller that <buyer> is purchasing your land <specs> for <price>. Approve / Decline?
2. When the seller posts a sale a fixed timer starts running. Should a sale take place within the timeout period (can be maybe 10 minutes up to a few hours depending on design) the seller is presented with a confirm dialog (if he's online), and an email (whether he is online or not). He may confirm the sale (data are all presented), via the dialog or by #3.
3. The email can be used to accept immediately or refuse the sale via links that open to a webpage with confirmation links or buttons.
4. The ability to refuse the sale remains until the time runs out (default response is according to #7), or the sale is accepted, or sale is refused.
5. The timeout keeps buyers from having to wait days for a confirmation of sale. The problem of land swooping (stealing) happens generally when both seller and intended buyer are online. It is for them that the explicit purchase-confirm dialog is provided.
6. modification (see comments below) was already integrated into #2.
7. On the SELL LAND dialog (not this confirm dialog) we can have an option where the seller can select the default response (approve sale / decline sale) to a sale that takes place during the countdown period but is neither approved nor declined by period's end. "Approve sale" would be the option most real estate dealers would select. "Decline sale" would be for those who want extra security in a land transfer. Default would initially be "Decline sale" but the client will remember any changes in setting for use in future sales.
Idea by Tyche Shepherd and Sarah Nerd, with inputs from myself, Fade Languish, Khashai Steinbeck, Joshua Nightshade, Oeironaut Escher, and Tess Whitcroft
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made changes - 20/Oct/08 09:17 AM
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[ Yichard,
Your Jira issue was discussed quite a bit at SLU so I have already been aware of it. It's simply not possible to achieve what you want.
This is the Achilles heel of your proposal: You're asking that bot users register. The ones you're really after WILL NOT register as such. You place the onus on the registrant and one who stands to lose something will not register. In effect you are asking "criminals" to identify themselves as such. No can do.
You're expecting a TOS to stop them? You'll have to be able to prove first beyond the shadow of a doubt that a bot is a bot. We both know that doesn't work simply because bot behavior is a subset of human behavior and thus a human can look like a bot. You also open people to harrassment by bot hunters. I have been on the receiving end of such in an MMO and it is infuriating to say the least.
I hope this is the end of this Jira derailment.
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made changes - 20/Oct/08 09:17 AM
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[ Derailment: this Jira is NOT about regulating bots.
Note to any admin passing by, please delete the off-topic subthread.
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made changes - 20/Oct/08 09:17 AM
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[ Yichard,
You misunderstand the purpose of this Jira entry. This is not about stopping bots but preventing the damage done by swoopers (bot and human) to those who are a bit careless with their land, perhaps due to a bit of ignorance and to some extent laziness to use the "sell to" dialog field.
If you understood how bots worked and how bot makers think you should know by now that it doesn't matter what policy Linden Labs will put in place. Automated bot detection is simply not possible because any detection rule you put in can be circumvented by a bot maker and you're back to square one. Manual anti-bot enforcement is not only impractical and unscalable, but is also prone to error.
The only way to deal with bots is to either live with them, make it impossible for them to operate (not possible in this case without disrupting normal transactions), by making it not worth their while, or by preventing the damage. For land transactions the only viable approach is the last one.
I know my programming and I've also been involved with manual anti-bot enforcement elsewhere, I'm not about to ask for the impossible.
By the way, this problem existed long before bots came on the scene. Human swoopers do the same damage.
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made changes - 20/Oct/08 09:33 AM
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6. (modification to #2) The timeout begins running upon posting of the sale offer rather than upon purchase attempt. This way long-standing sale offers (typical of big real estate brokers) are considered confirmed sales to anyone.