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Key: VWR-2778
Type: Bug Bug
Status: Resolved Resolved
Resolution: Fixed
Priority: Critical Critical
Assignee: WorkingOnIt Linden
Reporter: DBDigital Epsilon
Votes: 375
Watchers: 116
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1. Second Life Viewer - VWR

System skirt textures turn invisible on wearing

Created: 17/Oct/07 05:38 PM   Updated: 25/Jul/08 11:07 PM
Component/s: Avatar/Character
Affects Version/s: 1.18.5.3, 1.19.1.4, 1.20 Release Candidate
Fix Version/s: 1.20

File Attachments: 1. Text File skirt.patch (0.8 kb)

Image Attachments:

1. my ass is now worth L44773.jpg
(92 kb)

2. No skirt! .jpg
(199 kb)

3. no skirt_001.jpg
(127 kb)

4. screenshot not funny when skirt turns into belt.....jpg
(2 kb)

5. screenshot-1.jpg
(297 kb)

6. screenshot-2.jpg
(267 kb)

7. screenshot-not funny when your skirt turns into a belt.jpg
(8 kb)

8. Skirt Be Gone.jpg
(97 kb)

9. Skirt_Problem_001.bmp.jpg
(58 kb)

10. Skirt_Problem_002.bmp.jpg
(64 kb)
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Last Triaged: 30/May/08 11:37 AM
Linden Lab Issue ID: DEV-6181
Linden Lab Internal Branch: maint-render-5


 Description  « Hide
I know there are a lot of comments, that's why I edited the description.

Before someone re-opens this again, check this:

- You are using a viewer 1.20 Release Candidate or higher
- You tried to re-bake (Advanced Menu>Character>Rebake textures or press , ctrl+alt+r on PC, cmd+opt+r on MAC, I believe) and this does not fix the problem.

Also, your dissappeared skirt must be a system-skirt, not a prim-skirt.
Wanja Lubitsch
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Another easier method which works more reliably and even for no mod skirts (in 1.19) is to:

1) Take off all your HUDs
2) Wear the skirt
3) Rebake textures (press ctrl-alt-r or look in the advanced -> Character ->rebake menu item at the top of your screen if you don't see the avanced menu press ctrl-alt-shift-d)
4) Reattach HUDs

Keep in mind this should be fixed in 1.20 if you still have system skirt issues even after rebaking with RC 1.20 then be sure to report that as soon as possible.
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(OLD) REPRO from Mick Linden (try this in WindLight):

This issue occurs with many existing system skirts, although does not seem to affect new skirts created in inventory.

Repro:

1) Wear a system skirt, such as Asset ID: 64fc29a1-b205-00d2-4ae1-fd507030e948

Observe, the skirt texture will appear for a second or 2 and then turn entirely invisible. The skirt is still shown as being 'worn' in inventory.

2) Right-click yourself and go into appearance, or select the worn skirt in inventory and select 'edit'

Observe the skirt appears correctly in the preview panes of the appearance edit menu.

3) Click 'Close'

Observe the skirt disappears again when you exit the appearance menu.

4) Right-click yourself and go into appearance, or select the worn skirt in inventory and select 'edit' again

5) Select the 'Skirt' tab and adjust a slider. (e.g. length)

Observe the skirt disappears from your avatar.

6) Select 'Save and 'Close'

Observe the skirt now appears correctly on your avatar.

7) Unwear and wear the skirt several times.

Observe the skirt now appears on your avatar when worn in most cases without disappearing.

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There seems to be a problem with system skirts disappearing. I have not personally seen it, but people tell me of a lady suddenly without her skirt. I see it fine, but to the other person it is as if she took it off. It must be affecting some video cards and not others. Is anyone else hearing/seeing this? The skirt is still worn, and the asset is still intact, just not visible to some people. And it appears to be random, two ladies wearing the same skirt one will loose their skirt then it will be back again, then the second lady will loose hers while the first is still visable. As I said I haven't seen this personally just hearing about it a lot and I don't see it here in the tracker hence this submission.


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Lyssa Varun - 15/Nov/07 06:01 AM
Definitely seeing this on my own avatar. Interestingly enough the skirts will show when in appearance mode but promptly disappear upon exit. Also, when the textures are still loading the skirt appears and then disappears when it is fully loaded.

Lyssa Varun - 15/Nov/07 06:04 AM
I forgot to add that clearing network cache etc. appears to have no effect. Didn't see this behavior at all until Windlight viewer was installed.

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (Unknown model) (3013 MHz)
Memory: 2048 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: Radeon X1300/X1550 Series x86/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 2.0.6956 WinXP Release
LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000)

Mana Janus - 15/Nov/07 01:50 PM
I can see the same behavior with the 1.18.4 release, the 1.18.5 release candidate and the latest Windlight viewer. Me too noticed it first after installing Windlight, but it happens in all viewers now.

CPU: AMD (Unknown model) (2511 MHz)
Memory: 4094 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista (Build 6000)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 2.1.1
LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 4/2926 (0.1%)
Viewer Digest: 5d704dc5-72dc-f8ab-0dcc-dc1497bebe16

Doris Haller - 15/Nov/07 02:03 PM
I just had it with the Windlight: No skirt, except in appearance mode.
I re-logged with 1.18.4 (3) without changing my clothes, and the skirt is back.
The I tried 1.18.5 (0) Nov 13 2007 10:25:05 (Second Life Release Candidate), and I wear the skirt.

S it is only the windlight where I don't wear a skirt. I asked other people if they can see my skirt and they denied, but they did not have the windlight viewer running.
How weird is that?
 

If this would affect a mandatory viewer, I would classify it as a show-stopper.

Lyssa Varun - 15/Nov/07 07:33 PM
I also saw this problem propogate to the other releases, windlight, rc, normal viewers, on the same skirt.

Another item of note is that the skirt in question is modify and in edit appearance mode it doesn't show the texture box.

I tried all three Avatar Rendering options in the graphics detail preferences, no effect.

I tried editing skirt parameters and saving, length, poofy, etc., no effect.

I tried changing color from white to the light grey from the palette and saved in normal viewer and after saving and closing appearance mode the skirt then didn't vanish. I entered edit appearance mode again and set the color back to white, saved and closed appearance mode and the skirt once again didn't vanish.

Still in edit mode there is no texture selection box for this skirt.

Confirmed also that other avatars can see the skirt now too.

Lyssa Varun - 15/Nov/07 07:36 PM
Oh, also, one of the no-modify skirts I have that's doing this is still showing only in appearance mode and of course I can't perform the steps listed above since it's no mod. Is this some sort of inventory corruption?

Kriste Beck - 17/Nov/07 06:37 PM
I am experiencing the same problem with WindLight. The skirt on my avatar just disappeared, and when I went to edit it, I couldn't see it any longer.

I was able to make a new skirt, but when I tried to alter it it disappeared as well. This is rather frustrating!

Other avatars could not see me with a skirt on either.

I was thankfully able to get back into the normal client and "re-bake" the texture, but this is frustrating! Fortunately, I was not wearing a "No Modify" skirt.

I really like the look of Windlight, but not at the expense of my Avatar's skirts!


Crystal Falcon - 19/Nov/07 10:15 AM
A friend and I got the same outfit in different colors Saturday to wear to an event Sunday. We took pictures Sunday morning after relogging, then logged out. Later, I changed for a different event, then changed back for the event Sunday evening. On the way to the event I experienced the a TP crash, then after logging back in...

On my Windlight viewer I could see her skirt but not mine. She could however, see mine on her old viewer. Taking it off and putting it back on did not make it reappear to me unfortunately.


Torley Linden - 19/Nov/07 12:19 PM
I checked around and Mick Linden in QA noticed this bug too -- I've edited this issue because it appears to originate in WindLight, but as noted, propagates to other viewers after the problem has already happened. Can anyone actually *cause* the system skirt to disappear in another version?

In any case, I'll ask for further info...

oryx tempel - 19/Nov/07 12:54 PM
I've had 2 customers complain that their skirt actually *changed color* from white to brown. The skirt is no mod, and it's actually 2 different skirts that were created completely separate from each other. There's no way that the customer could have done this themselves. I'm asking them to check their versions of the viewers.

Doris Haller - 19/Nov/07 01:38 PM
I tried this, since I knew about this bug, in the current release candidate (not windlight):

- I copied the skirt
- I got dressed. everything was visible. Fine.
- I teleported and the skirt dissapeared
- I put on the copy, but it is invisible too!


Damn, my nice skirt!!


This is a very nasty bug!!

Doris Haller - 19/Nov/07 01:39 PM
I set it to critical, because it is a loss of data.

Maghnus Balogh - 20/Nov/07 10:20 AM
The listed workaround works fine for skirts if you have permissions to modify them, but for those you do not have permissions to modify, I've found the following works just as well.

Go into edit appearance
Goto the skirt tab
Remove the skirt (don't close Edit Appearance)
Wear the skirt again
Now close Edit appearance

If you do it this way, the skirt tends to not disappear. On the other hand, every time I try to wear it without being in Editing Appearance mode, the skirt will vanish except for a funky little oval on my left leg. I hope this workaround helps someone.

Mavromichali Szondi - 20/Nov/07 02:26 PM
The bottom half of my men's coat disappeared today. It only fixed when i adjusted the flounciness up and down a few times. It still tends to disappear again after TPs. As stated, the fix only works on mod items, and it's very random as to when ot works or not. Most annoying as it ruins the outfit to only wear half a coat. Just glad I'm not a lady: I'd end up indecently exposed in my bloomers.

emeraldever cline - 20/Nov/07 03:16 PM
I tried recreating one of my mermaid tails (skirt)...and it stayed on for a while...until I had to TP to someone's business and got there half-naked! So embarrassing...

I tried returning to the old client, and now I have the problem there too...like ya'll have mentioned.

The skirt is a vital part of my business.

emeraldever cline - 20/Nov/07 03:18 PM
Nevermind the leopard undies...where is my skirt?

Mana Janus - 21/Nov/07 03:33 PM
Just noticed an interesting effect. I had two skirts disappearing, one with mod permissions, one without. Using 1.18.5 RC1 viewer, I tried to use above workaround. It was sufficient to move the top skirt slider to 0 and back to 100 and then exit appearance mode, the skirt was visible again.

After that, I wore the no-mod skirt and it was visible too! Looks like fixing one skirt also fixed the other. Can anyone confirm this observation, or was it just a coincidence? If not it is a nice way for making no-mod skirts reappear.

Shyft Sands - 22/Nov/07 06:28 AM
This happens with almost all of my skirts. I found them to reappear after rebaking textures (Cmd+Alt+R on a Mac). Though I can't really say if others can see them fine, I'm suspecting they can, because if not, at least my friends would have dropped a note or something about me looking a little undressed.