[#VWR-14400] Normal and smaller sized objects do not render when zoomed from far away

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Normal and smaller sized objects do not render when zoomed from far away

Created: 27/Jun/09 04:45 AM Updated: 28/Jun/09 03:00 AM

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Component/s:

Graphics

Affects Version/s:

1.23

Fix Version/s:

None

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Image Attachments:

1. 01-no_watermelon_no_zabuton.jpg (150 kB)	2. 02-normal.jpg (142 kB)	3. 03-no_flowers_no_tomb.jpg (126 kB)
4. 04-normal.jpg (146 kB)

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Second Life 1.23.4 (123908) Jun 11 2009 15:37:14 (Second Life Release)
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Built with GCC version 40102

169496.3, 271834.4, 26.0 in Shinobiya land located at sim4251.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.53.155:13001)
Second Life Server 1.26.4.120562
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CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz
Memory: 1010 MB
OS Version: Linux 2.6.17-19mdv #1 SMP Tue Jun 3 15:34:25 EDT 2008 i686
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 9800 GTX+/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 3.0.0 NVIDIA 185.18.14

libcurl Version: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.7c zlib/1.2.3 c-ares/1.4.0
J2C Decoder Version: KDU
Audio Driver Version: OpenAL, version 1.1 / OpenAL Community / OpenAL Soft: ALSA Software on default
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.24949 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.18_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 0/42070 (0.0%)

Issue Links:

Duplicate

This issue duplicates:

VWR-5588 Objects within draw distance not rendered when standing away some meters

VWR-7521 Small Object Culling going too far

Relates

This issue Relates to:

~~VWR-11420~~ Textures are removed from viewer memory too aggressively

~~VWR-13369~~ Small and zoomed objects (prims) flickering

~~VWR-14270~~ Prims vanish when alt-zooming

~~VWR-13868~~ Rendermaxnodesize default value too low

VWR-12987 Primitives and changes made to primitives are not visible until camera is zoomed.

SVC-1926 Small prim culling should be based on camera position, not agent position.

VWR-1367 Expose Small Object Culling Settings

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(Numbers are that of the attached snapshots)

1. Stand on a place and zoom 100 meters away. Notice that some objects that you know are supposed to be there are not there.
2. Go to that place. Notice the objects ARE there.
3-4. Now zoom to the place you just were and notice the same problem.

This seems to happen for objects that are relatively normal sized and below only.

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Ellla McMahon added a comment - 27/Jun/09 06:01 AM

Yukinoroh, please see issues VWR-12987 & ~~VWR-13868~~ and add your comments and votes.

Please also see Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 21/Jun/09 01:33 PM on ~~VWR-14270~~

Try increasing the Advanced>Debug Settings...>RenderMaxNodeSize to 8192, wait 30 - 45 seconds and see if this still occurs. See ~~VWR-13868~~.

Thank you : )

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Moon Metty added a comment - 27/Jun/09 06:17 AM

This looks like a duplicate of VWR-5588.

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Yukinoroh Kamachi added a comment - 27/Jun/09 06:47 AM

What more info did you need? Couldn't you have just added a link (relates to) ?

~~VWR-13868~~ and ~~VWR-14270~~ are, if I'm correct, about microprims (which are not officially supported), and VWR-12987 is about changes made to primitives... The prims objects I showed there are just far away, they are not even sculpted or microprims. I believe the SL viewer just does not render them because they are far away from the avatar...

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Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 27/Jun/09 08:35 AM

Most of this is probably due to small object culling, see VWR-5588 and VWR-7521. The problem with small object culling is it is based on camera position, instead of avatar position, see SVC-1926.

~~VWR-13868~~ and ~~VWR-14270~~ have nothing to do with microprims, see ~~VWR-14049~~ for example of a build effected by this, the best way to tell if the rendering limits are the cause of this in anyway is to try increasing the Advanced>Debug Settings...>RenderMaxNodeSize to 8192, wait 30 - 45 seconds and see if this still occurs.

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Yukinoroh Kamachi added a comment - 28/Jun/09 02:31 AM

I tried to set RenderMaxNodeSize to 8192, and one day later it has no effects. Moon Metty is right, this is a duplicate of VWR-5588. However I am concerned about why the last comment on 5588 is months ago... Are there just few people with that bug ? One thing I notice though... Client 1.22 does not allow me to zoom that far away, so I can't check if that version is affected or not.

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Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 28/Jun/09 02:44 AM

Small Object Culling is not a bug, it is a performance feature, it acts strange due to SVC-1926.

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Yukinoroh Kamachi added a comment - 28/Jun/09 02:47 AM

That's what I thought really, but why was the zoom set that far if objects are not rendered that far ?

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Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 28/Jun/09 03:00 AM

I would imagine other things effect your zoom, like draw distance and disable camera constraints (which could be why you could not zoom in 1.22)