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Key: VWR-12962
Type: Bug Bug
Status: Resolved Resolved
Resolution: Fixed
Priority: Critical Critical
Assignee: nyx linden
Reporter: Qie Niangao
Votes: 1057
Watchers: 81
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1. Second Life Viewer - VWR

Skins with alpha bake make up much more opaquely than before - WILL BE FIXED SOON!

Created: 24/Apr/09 07:03 AM   Updated: 30/Jul/09 09:34 AM
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Component/s: Avatar/Character
Affects Version/s: 1.23 Release Candidate, 1.23 Public Nightly
Fix Version/s: 1.23 Release Candidate

File Attachments: None
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1. 123RC.png
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2. 2Qies.png
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3. 3466144441_0c52314de8_o.jpg
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4. bad eyelashes and brows.jpg
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5. bug002.jpg
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6. bug002a.jpg
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7. bug002b.jpg
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8. Character Tests Female.jpg
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9. Character Tests Male.jpg
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10. Eyelashes zoom (brows set to transparent).jpg
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11. Invisible body Lisa Lowe.jpg
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12. magica jueves santo_001.png
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13. Partial invisible.jpg
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14. skin comparisons.jpg
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15. Snapshot eyes again_002.png
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16. Snapshot_001.png
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17. Snapshot_145.png
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18. Tyrall Jefferson SL Skin errors.JPG
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19. wrong baking.jpg
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Environment:
Second Life 1.23.0 (117724) Apr 17 2009 21:26:08 (Second Life Public Nightly)
Built with GCC version 40102
Second Life Server 1.26.2.117266

CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66GHz
Memory: 2026 MB
OS Version: Linux 2.6.22-gentoo-r9 #8 SMP Mon Dec 10 12:30:13 EST 2007 i686
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 173.14.09
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Last Triaged: 27/Apr/09 01:36 PM
Linden Lab Issue ID: DEV-31382
Linden Lab Internal Branch: viewer_1-23


 Description  « Hide
Semi-transparent skins bake make-up very differently in 1.23, seemingly with much greater opacity than before. Even with opacity of 0, make-up is still very apparent.

Attached image shows two pictures: on the left, a semi-transparent skin worn by an avatar in 1.22; on the right, same skin, same settings, with the avatar in 1.23.

NOTE: Both pictures were taken from another viewer running 1.22. It is not the display of the skin that differs with 1.23, but the baking, and is evident to other viewers regardless of version.

I tried it on another alpha skin with the same result, but it did not happen on a non-alpha skin.
[ CORRECTION: It does happen on non-alpha skins. Sorry for any confusion. -QN ]

Thanks for all your feedback! We realize that our current implementation breaks a lot of content and that this simply is not acceptable. We are working on a solution, and will not leave the problem in the current state. -Nyx Linden

There is a proposed fix in the code that will be RC1, if the testing goes well. Note that this issue is just for the layering issue of makeup, freckles, and eyebrows. The eyelashes bug is VWR-13051, and invisibility bugs should also have their own JIRAs - Nyx



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Alexa Linden made changes - 27/Apr/09 01:36 PM
Field Original Value New Value
Last Triaged 27/Apr/09 01:35 PM
lindenrobot made changes - 27/Apr/09 01:36 PM
Last Triaged 27/Apr/09 01:35 PM 27/Apr/09 01:36 PM
Linden Lab Issue ID DEV-31382
nyx linden made changes - 27/Apr/09 03:15 PM
Status Open [ 1 ] Resolved [ 5 ]
Resolution Expected Behavior [ 9 ]
Moon Metty made changes - 27/Apr/09 05:22 PM
Resolution Expected Behavior [ 9 ]
Status Resolved [ 5 ] Reopened [ 4 ]
Arabella Steadham made changes - 28/Apr/09 03:58 AM
Attachment Snapshot eyes again_002.png [ 23373 ]
Qie Niangao made changes - 28/Apr/09 05:39 AM
Description Semi-transparent skins bake make-up very differently in 1.23, seemingly with much greater opacity than before. Even with opacity of 0, make-up is still very apparent.

Attached image shows two pictures: on the left, a semi-transparent skin worn by an avatar in 1.22; on the right, same skin, same settings, with the avatar in 1.23.

NOTE: Both pictures were taken from another viewer running 1.22. It is not the *display* of the skin that differs with 1.23, but the baking, and is evident to other viewers regardless of version.

I tried it on another alpha skin with the same result, but it did not happen on a non-alpha skin.
Semi-transparent skins bake make-up very differently in 1.23, seemingly with much greater opacity than before. Even with opacity of 0, make-up is still very apparent.

Attached image shows two pictures: on the left, a semi-transparent skin worn by an avatar in 1.22; on the right, same skin, same settings, with the avatar in 1.23.

NOTE: Both pictures were taken from another viewer running 1.22. It is not the *display* of the skin that differs with 1.23, but the baking, and is evident to other viewers regardless of version.

I tried it on another alpha skin with the same result, but it did not happen on a non-alpha skin.
[ CORRECTION: It does happen on non-alpha skins. Sorry for any confusion. -QN ]
Harleen Gretzky made changes - 28/Apr/09 05:42 AM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-6784 [ VWR-6784 ]
Latif Khalifa made changes - 28/Apr/09 06:46 AM
Attachment wrong baking.jpg [ 23375 ]
Ana Lutetia made changes - 28/Apr/09 11:55 AM
Attachment 3466144441_0c52314de8_o.jpg [ 23379 ]
Jacek Antonelli made changes - 28/Apr/09 03:10 PM
Priority Normal [ 4 ] Critical [ 2 ]
nyx linden made changes - 28/Apr/09 03:27 PM
Assignee WorkingOnIt Linden [ WorkingOnIt Linden ]
nyx linden made changes - 28/Apr/09 03:33 PM
Link This issue Relates to VWR-53 [ VWR-53 ]
thunderclap Morgridge made changes - 28/Apr/09 04:47 PM
Priority Critical [ 2 ] Showstopper [ 1 ]
SunShine Kukulcan made changes - 28/Apr/09 06:34 PM
Comment [ Asking content creators prior to changing this would have been a small step in the right direction.
Reverting back to original settings should stand, and next time some showstopper changes are on the stove,
ask for input!

Of all the assinine, non-customer related, harebrained steps to "IMPROVE" our experience, this one takes the cake. ]
nyx linden made changes - 29/Apr/09 08:29 AM
Description Semi-transparent skins bake make-up very differently in 1.23, seemingly with much greater opacity than before. Even with opacity of 0, make-up is still very apparent.

Attached image shows two pictures: on the left, a semi-transparent skin worn by an avatar in 1.22; on the right, same skin, same settings, with the avatar in 1.23.

NOTE: Both pictures were taken from another viewer running 1.22. It is not the *display* of the skin that differs with 1.23, but the baking, and is evident to other viewers regardless of version.

I tried it on another alpha skin with the same result, but it did not happen on a non-alpha skin.
[ CORRECTION: It does happen on non-alpha skins. Sorry for any confusion. -QN ]
Semi-transparent skins bake make-up very differently in 1.23, seemingly with much greater opacity than before. Even with opacity of 0, make-up is still very apparent.

Attached image shows two pictures: on the left, a semi-transparent skin worn by an avatar in 1.22; on the right, same skin, same settings, with the avatar in 1.23.

NOTE: Both pictures were taken from another viewer running 1.22. It is not the *display* of the skin that differs with 1.23, but the baking, and is evident to other viewers regardless of version.

I tried it on another alpha skin with the same result, but it did not happen on a non-alpha skin.
[ CORRECTION: It does happen on non-alpha skins. Sorry for any confusion. -QN ]

Thanks for all your feedback! We realize that our current implementation breaks a lot of content and that this simply is not acceptable. We are working on a solution, and will not leave the problem in the current state. -Nyx Linden
nyx linden made changes - 29/Apr/09 12:53 PM
Status Reopened [ 4 ] Fix Pending [ 10001 ]
Linden Lab Internal Branch viewer_1-23
Assignee WorkingOnIt Linden [ WorkingOnIt Linden ] nyx linden [ nyx linden ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 29/Apr/09 04:44 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-12877 [ VWR-12877 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 29/Apr/09 04:47 PM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13051 [ VWR-13051 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 29/Apr/09 04:47 PM
Affects Version/s 1.23 Release Candidate [ 10433 ]
Harleen Gretzky made changes - 29/Apr/09 05:03 PM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13054 [ VWR-13054 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 29/Apr/09 07:16 PM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13051 [ VWR-13051 ]
Ellla McMahon made changes - 29/Apr/09 07:18 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-13051 [ VWR-13051 ]
Harleen Gretzky made changes - 29/Apr/09 07:42 PM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13062 [ VWR-13062 ]
Ilianexsi Sojourner made changes - 29/Apr/09 10:12 PM
Attachment skin comparisons.jpg [ 23439 ]
Alexa Linden made changes - 30/Apr/09 11:25 AM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13082 [ VWR-13082 ]
Alexa Linden made changes - 30/Apr/09 11:26 AM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13084 [ VWR-13084 ]
Ceera Murakami made changes - 30/Apr/09 11:29 AM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-13082 [ VWR-13082 ]
Darin Munro made changes - 30/Apr/09 12:54 PM
Attachment 123RC.png [ 23475 ]
Harleen Gretzky made changes - 30/Apr/09 01:46 PM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13082 [ VWR-13082 ]
Alexa Linden made changes - 30/Apr/09 02:38 PM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13099 [ VWR-13099 ]
Lisa Lowe made changes - 30/Apr/09 03:18 PM
Attachment Invisible body Lisa Lowe.jpg [ 23485 ]
Lisa Lowe made changes - 30/Apr/09 03:20 PM
Comment [ Different parts of the body become invisible frequently. ]
Lisa Lowe made changes - 30/Apr/09 05:27 PM
Attachment Character Tests Female.jpg [ 23490 ]
Attachment Character Tests Male.jpg [ 23491 ]
Attachment Partial invisible.jpg [ 23492 ]
Harleen Gretzky made changes - 01/May/09 12:14 AM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13113 [ VWR-13113 ]
Sugarcult Dagger made changes - 01/May/09 04:55 AM
Comment [ i've got sparkling fairy dust eyelashes with nasty mascara that when i take the slider to 0 they still look like they are at 20 and the lipstick looks like a house painter brushed it on lol, all i can do is crack up and find another,getting pissed off about it won't help,myself i cant do anything to solve the problem anyway, yes it is about L100,000 in skins i can't use and 'course it's all my best ones, not much to do but kick back and wait for a work around or a fix, oh yeah, this all started with a "unibrow" that when i changed the bald base went to lookin like a Marx bro lol, oh yes i forgot to say what wonderful job of f'n up all the hard work the designers in SL have done:)


Second Life 1.23.0 (118316) Apr 23 2009 21:20:14 (Second Life Public Nightly)
Release Notes

Built with MSVC version 1400

You are at 201181.3, 266135.4, 72.0 in Bloodmoss Swamp located at sim2886.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.19.129:12035)
Second Life Server 1.26.2.117266
Release Notes

CPU: Intel Core 2 Series Processor (2399 MHz)
Memory: 3326 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 8600 GTS/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 3.0.0

libcurl Version: libcurl/7.18.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
J2C Decoder Version: KDU
Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.740000
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.23552 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.21_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 488/497836 (0.1%)
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Sugarcult Dagger made changes - 01/May/09 04:58 AM
Comment [ I don't know if it matters or not but i figured my loss in USD as 90% of the skins are no mod and it came out around $1,500 USD, L$2,500 worth of skins at a time add up kinda fast and this is my main av i did'nt even feel like figuring this out for my alts, "feature", did you even get any input from the designers? from who i see commenting and what is said i think not, i kinda re-thought things when i did'nt feel like logging in to look like crap i have other worlds to log into where my money will be better spent, till this is resolved i'll just watch my e-mail and not waste my time, next time please get some input from the ppl who have to deal with this. i really do understand the use of the PN and RC is to bring things like this out but next time if you know something like this might happen a heads up would be nice,if ppl know this might result you might not have as much of negative feed back from ppl saying WTF is this. one last edit, could you please send me some "white face", if i'm gonna be a clown i'd like to do it right.

Thanx


]
Harleen Gretzky made changes - 01/May/09 06:01 AM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13126 [ VWR-13126 ]
Aria Tisch made changes - 01/May/09 06:15 AM
Status Fix Pending [ 10001 ] Reopened [ 4 ]
Sandor Balczo made changes - 01/May/09 06:36 AM
Attachment Snapshot_001.png [ 23529 ]
nyx linden made changes - 01/May/09 12:28 PM
Description Semi-transparent skins bake make-up very differently in 1.23, seemingly with much greater opacity than before. Even with opacity of 0, make-up is still very apparent.

Attached image shows two pictures: on the left, a semi-transparent skin worn by an avatar in 1.22; on the right, same skin, same settings, with the avatar in 1.23.

NOTE: Both pictures were taken from another viewer running 1.22. It is not the *display* of the skin that differs with 1.23, but the baking, and is evident to other viewers regardless of version.

I tried it on another alpha skin with the same result, but it did not happen on a non-alpha skin.
[ CORRECTION: It does happen on non-alpha skins. Sorry for any confusion. -QN ]

Thanks for all your feedback! We realize that our current implementation breaks a lot of content and that this simply is not acceptable. We are working on a solution, and will not leave the problem in the current state. -Nyx Linden
Semi-transparent skins bake make-up very differently in 1.23, seemingly with much greater opacity than before. Even with opacity of 0, make-up is still very apparent.

Attached image shows two pictures: on the left, a semi-transparent skin worn by an avatar in 1.22; on the right, same skin, same settings, with the avatar in 1.23.

NOTE: Both pictures were taken from another viewer running 1.22. It is not the *display* of the skin that differs with 1.23, but the baking, and is evident to other viewers regardless of version.

I tried it on another alpha skin with the same result, but it did not happen on a non-alpha skin.
[ CORRECTION: It does happen on non-alpha skins. Sorry for any confusion. -QN ]

Thanks for all your feedback! We realize that our current implementation breaks a lot of content and that this simply is not acceptable. We are working on a solution, and will not leave the problem in the current state. -Nyx Linden

There is a proposed fix in the code that will be RC1, if the testing goes well. Note that this issue is just for the layering issue of makeup, freckles, and eyebrows. The eyelashes bug is VWR-13051, and invisibility bugs should also have their own JIRAs - Nyx
SAIBABA Kira made changes - 01/May/09 06:06 PM
Attachment magica jueves santo_001.png [ 23547 ]
Sandor Balczo made changes - 01/May/09 10:49 PM
Comment [ @ Nyx: thank you for pointing me to VWR-10351 to report about my mascara eyelashes which I shouldn't have. But I suppose that the problem of disappearing shoe soles is pertinent to this issue. ]
Jacek Antonelli made changes - 01/May/09 11:54 PM
Summary Skins with alpha bake make up much more opaquely than before Skins with alpha bake make up much more opaquely than before - WILL BE FIXED SOON!
Description Semi-transparent skins bake make-up very differently in 1.23, seemingly with much greater opacity than before. Even with opacity of 0, make-up is still very apparent.

Attached image shows two pictures: on the left, a semi-transparent skin worn by an avatar in 1.22; on the right, same skin, same settings, with the avatar in 1.23.

NOTE: Both pictures were taken from another viewer running 1.22. It is not the *display* of the skin that differs with 1.23, but the baking, and is evident to other viewers regardless of version.

I tried it on another alpha skin with the same result, but it did not happen on a non-alpha skin.
[ CORRECTION: It does happen on non-alpha skins. Sorry for any confusion. -QN ]

Thanks for all your feedback! We realize that our current implementation breaks a lot of content and that this simply is not acceptable. We are working on a solution, and will not leave the problem in the current state. -Nyx Linden

There is a proposed fix in the code that will be RC1, if the testing goes well. Note that this issue is just for the layering issue of makeup, freckles, and eyebrows. The eyelashes bug is VWR-13051, and invisibility bugs should also have their own JIRAs - Nyx
Semi-transparent skins bake make-up very differently in 1.23, seemingly with much greater opacity than before. Even with opacity of 0, make-up is still very apparent.

Attached image shows two pictures: on the left, a semi-transparent skin worn by an avatar in 1.22; on the right, same skin, same settings, with the avatar in 1.23.

NOTE: Both pictures were taken from another viewer running 1.22. It is not the *display* of the skin that differs with 1.23, but the baking, and is evident to other viewers regardless of version.

I tried it on another alpha skin with the same result, but it did not happen on a non-alpha skin.
[ CORRECTION: It does happen on non-alpha skins. Sorry for any confusion. -QN ]

*Thanks for all your feedback! We realize that our current implementation breaks a lot of content and that this simply is not acceptable. We are working on a solution, and will not leave the problem in the current state. -Nyx Linden*

*There is a proposed fix in the code that will be RC1, if the testing goes well. Note that this issue is just for the layering issue of makeup, freckles, and eyebrows. The eyelashes bug is VWR-13051, and invisibility bugs should also have their own JIRAs - Nyx*
Jacek Antonelli made changes - 01/May/09 11:54 PM
Status Reopened [ 4 ] Fix Pending [ 10001 ]
Harleen Gretzky made changes - 02/May/09 07:41 AM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13168 [ VWR-13168 ]
Harleen Gretzky made changes - 02/May/09 07:50 AM
Link This issue is original of duplicate VWR-13165 [ VWR-13165 ]
Siobhan McCallen made changes - 02/May/09 11:23 AM
Attachment bad eyelashes and brows.jpg [ 23570 ]
shamus carter made changes - 02/May/09 10:51 PM
Attachment Snapshot_145.png [ 23581 ]
Brun0 Beck made changes - 04/May/09 01:13 PM
tyrall jefferson made changes - 05/May/09 06:37 AM
nyx linden made changes - 08/May/09 02:17 PM
Link This issue is related to by VWR-12906 [ VWR-12906 ]
BigPapi Linden made changes - 12/May/09 01:56 PM
Status Fix Pending [ 10001 ] Resolved [ 5 ]
Fix Version/s 1.23 Release Candidate [ 10433 ]
Resolution Fixed [ 1 ]
Youri Ashton made changes - 21/May/09 08:12 AM
Attachment bug002.jpg [ 24504 ]
Attachment bug002a.jpg [ 24505 ]
Attachment bug002b.jpg [ 24506 ]
Nemesis Greatrex made changes - 06/Jun/09 04:11 PM
Priority Showstopper [ 1 ] Critical [ 2 ]
Nixie Crystal made changes - 29/Jul/09 10:00 PM
Resolution Fixed [ 1 ]
Status Resolved [ 5 ] Reopened [ 4 ]
Harleen Gretzky made changes - 30/Jul/09 04:16 AM
Status Reopened [ 4 ] Resolved [ 5 ]
Resolution Fixed [ 1 ]