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SVC-508
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Angel Fluffy
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SVC-453
"allow access lines" toggle for sim owners
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VWR-8480
Add Allow Access override in Region/Estate menu.
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SVC-456 Meta-Issue: Improved Anti-Griefer Tools
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SVC-541 Meta-Issue : Estate Improvements
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
By "override" I mean : lock checkboxes to ANY value of their choosing, and restrict number entry fields to any range (which could be a range of 0, forcing the option to a specific value, e.g. a 10m auto-return).
Example uses :
- Turning off the use of access-lines to enforce covenants which prohibit the ugly things. (
SVC-453)
- Turning off public (not-in-the-land-group) build access on all parcels to halt griefer attacks.
- Turning off the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places, thus preventing clubs springing up in "residential zones". Or otherwise locking down settings in a way that stores don't like, such as setting "block transactions" (SVC-422) estate wide.
- Forcing all parcels to be no-fly (or fly-enabled!), without the confusing situation where "Fly" remains togglable in about->land options even why the whole estate is set no-fly.
- Forcing all parcels to be no public terraform (or open to public terraform), without the confusing situation where setting the estate "no terraform" still leaves the "public terraform" box in about land -> options checkable.
- Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return. This would help estate owners keep estates free of clutter.
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
Fundamentally, sim owners have at least three reasons to restrict possible parcel settings on their sims in this way :
1) Protecting the sim - setting a sim-wide "no build except by landowners / landowner groups" flag during a griefer attack protects the sim from being crashed by most weapons.
2) Preventing tenant confusion - with the fly override for example... the way it is currently done is confusing to the tenant. Fly override already exists, my proposal simply explains its use better to residents.
3) Enforcing the covenant that customers agree to. E.g. if no public gathering places are permitted on a sim, why not enforce this by preventing parcels on that sim being listed in search->places? Easy, automatic enforcement. Similarly, with access lines. Many island chains have rules against their use. But we don't even know when our residents are using them, as estate owners and managers are immune to access lines on their sims. So we can't see them and don't notice them. Instead of having to use alts to check our sims, or relying on resident reports to make sure our covenants are being followed, why not just have a neat little region or estate-wide toggle that, when checked off, stops residents putting access lines up? I mean, if it clearly says in the covenant that enabling access lines are not permitted...
Estate owners have several legit reasons for wanting these features.
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Description
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
By "override" I mean : lock checkboxes to ANY value of their choosing, and restrict number entry fields to any range (which could be a range of 0, forcing the option to a specific value, e.g. a 10m auto-return).
Example uses :
- Turning off the use of access-lines to enforce covenants which prohibit the ugly things. (
SVC-453)
- Turning off public (not-in-the-land-group) build access on all parcels to halt griefer attacks.
- Turning off the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places, thus preventing clubs springing up in "residential zones". Or otherwise locking down settings in a way that stores don't like, such as setting "block transactions" (SVC-422) estate wide.
- Forcing all parcels to be no-fly (or fly-enabled!), without the confusing situation where "Fly" remains togglable in about->land options even why the whole estate is set no-fly.
- Forcing all parcels to be no public terraform (or open to public terraform), without the confusing situation where setting the estate "no terraform" still leaves the "public terraform" box in about land -> options checkable.
- Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return. This would help estate owners keep estates free of clutter.
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
Fundamentally, sim owners have at least three reasons to restrict possible parcel settings on their sims in this way :
1) Protecting the sim - setting a sim-wide "no build except by landowners / landowner groups" flag during a griefer attack protects the sim from being crashed by most weapons.
2) Preventing tenant confusion - with the fly override for example... the way it is currently done is confusing to the tenant. Fly override already exists, my proposal simply explains its use better to residents.
3) Enforcing the covenant that customers agree to. E.g. if no public gathering places are permitted on a sim, why not enforce this by preventing parcels on that sim being listed in search->places? Easy, automatic enforcement. Similarly, with access lines. Many island chains have rules against their use. But we don't even know when our residents are using them, as estate owners and managers are immune to access lines on their sims. So we can't see them and don't notice them. Instead of having to use alts to check our sims, or relying on resident reports to make sure our covenants are being followed, why not just have a neat little region or estate-wide toggle that, when checked off, stops residents putting access lines up? I mean, if it clearly says in the covenant that enabling access lines are not permitted...
Estate owners have several legit reasons for wanting these features. |
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made changes - 05/Aug/07 12:39 PM
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This issue is related to by SVC-456
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made changes - 05/Aug/07 12:40 PM
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This issue is duplicated by SVC-453
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made changes - 05/Aug/07 12:48 PM
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Description
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
Options would include :
* Requiring that the "All Residents" box for "Create Objects" is disabled, thus establishing a lack of public build access on the sims, while still allowing landowners to build as they wished. Enabling this temporarily would be a HUGE help in stopping griefers on islands.
* Requiring that the checkboxes under about land -> access are DISABLED, thus ensuring that there are no "access lines" on the sim (SVC-453)
* Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return
* Disabling fly sim-wide
* Disabling or enabling damage sim-wide
* Disabling the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places (very effective tool to force land to be zoned residential)
* Disabling public terraforming of land
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
By "override" I mean : lock checkboxes to ANY value of their choosing, and restrict number entry fields to any range (which could be a range of 0, forcing the option to a specific value, e.g. a 10m auto-return).
Options would include :
* Requiring that the "All Residents" box for "Create Objects" is disabled, thus establishing a lack of public build access on the sims, while still allowing landowners to build as they wished. Enabling this temporarily would be a HUGE help in stopping griefers on islands.
* Requiring that the checkboxes under about land -> access are DISABLED, thus ensuring that there are no "access lines" on the sim (SVC-453)
* Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return
* Disabling fly sim-wide
* Disabling or enabling damage sim-wide
* Disabling the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places (very effective tool to force land to be zoned residential)
* Disabling public terraforming of land
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
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made changes - 05/Aug/07 12:52 PM
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Description
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
By "override" I mean : lock checkboxes to ANY value of their choosing, and restrict number entry fields to any range (which could be a range of 0, forcing the option to a specific value, e.g. a 10m auto-return).
Options would include :
* Requiring that the "All Residents" box for "Create Objects" is disabled, thus establishing a lack of public build access on the sims, while still allowing landowners to build as they wished. Enabling this temporarily would be a HUGE help in stopping griefers on islands.
* Requiring that the checkboxes under about land -> access are DISABLED, thus ensuring that there are no "access lines" on the sim (SVC-453)
* Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return
* Disabling fly sim-wide
* Disabling or enabling damage sim-wide
* Disabling the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places (very effective tool to force land to be zoned residential)
* Disabling public terraforming of land
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
By "override" I mean : lock checkboxes to ANY value of their choosing, and restrict number entry fields to any range (which could be a range of 0, forcing the option to a specific value, e.g. a 10m auto-return).
This would allow us to :
* Requiring that the "All Residents" box for "Create Objects" is disabled, thus establishing a lack of public build access on the sims, while still allowing landowners to build as they wished. Enabling this temporarily would be a HUGE help in stopping griefers on islands.
* Requiring that the checkboxes under about land -> access are DISABLED, thus ensuring that there are no "access lines" on the sim. This would enable estate owners to have "access-line free" sims which, given how annoying access lines are, would be greatly welcomed by residents. (SVC-453)
* Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return. This would help estate owners keep estates free of clutter.
* Disabling fly sim-wide
* Disabling or enabling damage sim-wide
* Disabling the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places (very effective tool to force land to be zoned residential)
* Disabling public terraforming of land
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
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made changes - 05/Aug/07 12:54 PM
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This issue is duplicated by VWR-1649
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made changes - 05/Aug/07 12:54 PM
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This issue is duplicated by VWR-1648
[ VWR-1648
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made changes - 13/Aug/07 07:19 PM
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This issue is related to by SVC-541
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made changes - 13/Aug/07 07:41 PM
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This issue is related to by SVC-540
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made changes - 13/Aug/07 07:48 PM
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Summary
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estate override for parcel settings
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Estate override for parcel settings
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Description
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
By "override" I mean : lock checkboxes to ANY value of their choosing, and restrict number entry fields to any range (which could be a range of 0, forcing the option to a specific value, e.g. a 10m auto-return).
This would allow us to :
* Requiring that the "All Residents" box for "Create Objects" is disabled, thus establishing a lack of public build access on the sims, while still allowing landowners to build as they wished. Enabling this temporarily would be a HUGE help in stopping griefers on islands.
* Requiring that the checkboxes under about land -> access are DISABLED, thus ensuring that there are no "access lines" on the sim. This would enable estate owners to have "access-line free" sims which, given how annoying access lines are, would be greatly welcomed by residents. (SVC-453)
* Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return. This would help estate owners keep estates free of clutter.
* Disabling fly sim-wide
* Disabling or enabling damage sim-wide
* Disabling the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places (very effective tool to force land to be zoned residential)
* Disabling public terraforming of land
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
By "override" I mean : lock checkboxes to ANY value of their choosing, and restrict number entry fields to any range (which could be a range of 0, forcing the option to a specific value, e.g. a 10m auto-return).
Example uses :
* Turning off the use of access-lines to enforce covenants which prohibit the ugly things. (SVC-453)
* Turning off public (not-in-the-land-group) build access on all parcels to halt griefer attacks.
* Turning off the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places, thus preventing clubs springing up in "residential zones". Or otherwise locking down settings in a way that stores don't like, such as setting "block transactions" (SVC-422) estate wide.
* Forcing all parcels to be no-fly (or fly-enabled!), without the confusing situation where "Fly" remains togglable in about->land options even why the whole estate is set no-fly.
* Forcing all parcels to be no *public* terraform (or open to public terraform), without the confusing situation where setting the estate "no terraform" still leaves the "public terraform" box in about land -> options checkable.
* Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return. This would help estate owners keep estates free of clutter.
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
Giving the estate owner / managers the ability to lock such options at the estate level would be very helpful in enforcing covenants, preventing griefer attacks, preventing residents getting confused about why the land settings checkboxes don't appear to work correctly when region override is in effect.
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made changes - 13/Aug/07 08:01 PM
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Description
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
By "override" I mean : lock checkboxes to ANY value of their choosing, and restrict number entry fields to any range (which could be a range of 0, forcing the option to a specific value, e.g. a 10m auto-return).
Example uses :
* Turning off the use of access-lines to enforce covenants which prohibit the ugly things. (SVC-453)
* Turning off public (not-in-the-land-group) build access on all parcels to halt griefer attacks.
* Turning off the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places, thus preventing clubs springing up in "residential zones". Or otherwise locking down settings in a way that stores don't like, such as setting "block transactions" (SVC-422) estate wide.
* Forcing all parcels to be no-fly (or fly-enabled!), without the confusing situation where "Fly" remains togglable in about->land options even why the whole estate is set no-fly.
* Forcing all parcels to be no *public* terraform (or open to public terraform), without the confusing situation where setting the estate "no terraform" still leaves the "public terraform" box in about land -> options checkable.
* Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return. This would help estate owners keep estates free of clutter.
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
Giving the estate owner / managers the ability to lock such options at the estate level would be very helpful in enforcing covenants, preventing griefer attacks, preventing residents getting confused about why the land settings checkboxes don't appear to work correctly when region override is in effect.
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Allow estate owners to override any parcel settings they wish on an estate-wide basis.
By "override" I mean : lock checkboxes to ANY value of their choosing, and restrict number entry fields to any range (which could be a range of 0, forcing the option to a specific value, e.g. a 10m auto-return).
Example uses :
* Turning off the use of access-lines to enforce covenants which prohibit the ugly things. (SVC-453)
* Turning off public (not-in-the-land-group) build access on all parcels to halt griefer attacks.
* Turning off the ability for parcels to be listed in search->places, thus preventing clubs springing up in "residential zones". Or otherwise locking down settings in a way that stores don't like, such as setting "block transactions" (SVC-422) estate wide.
* Forcing all parcels to be no-fly (or fly-enabled!), without the confusing situation where "Fly" remains togglable in about->land options even why the whole estate is set no-fly.
* Forcing all parcels to be no *public* terraform (or open to public terraform), without the confusing situation where setting the estate "no terraform" still leaves the "public terraform" box in about land -> options checkable.
* Setting a minimum (or maximum) value for auto-return. This would help estate owners keep estates free of clutter.
Some of these are already possible (like disabling fly). Unfortunately, they DO NOT grey out the 'fly' checkbox in the about land -> options page, thus creating confusion amongst residents about why they cannot fly when fly is enabled at the parcel level.
If these settings are locked at the estate level, then, just as with no push, the relevant boxes on the parcel page should be greyed out and display "(region override)" next to them.
Fundamentally, sim owners have at least three reasons to restrict possible parcel settings on their sims in this way :
1) Protecting the sim - setting a sim-wide "no build except by landowners / landowner groups" flag during a griefer attack protects the sim from being crashed by most weapons.
2) Preventing tenant confusion - with the fly override for example... the way it is currently done is confusing to the tenant. Fly override already exists, my proposal simply explains its use better to residents.
3) Enforcing the covenant that customers agree to. E.g. if no public gathering places are permitted on a sim, why not enforce this by preventing parcels on that sim being listed in search->places? Easy, automatic enforcement. Similarly, with access lines. Many island chains have rules against their use. But we don't even know when our residents are using them, as estate owners and managers are immune to access lines on their sims. So we can't see them and don't notice them. Instead of having to use alts to check our sims, or relying on resident reports to make sure our covenants are being followed, why not just have a neat little region or estate-wide toggle that, when checked off, stops residents putting access lines up? I mean, if it clearly says in the covenant that enabling access lines are not permitted...
Estate owners have several legit reasons for wanting these features.
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made changes - 30/Aug/07 10:08 PM
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This issue is related to by VWR-776
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made changes - 22/Dec/07 01:04 AM
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made changes - 22/Dec/07 01:27 AM
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made changes - 23/Dec/07 12:15 AM
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made changes - 23/Dec/07 12:33 AM
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made changes - 20/Mar/08 10:16 AM
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This issue is related to by VWR-776
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made changes - 27/Oct/08 04:05 PM
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This issue is original of duplicate VWR-8480
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 12:02 PM
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jira-2007-12-22a
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:27 PM
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:40 PM
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:48 PM
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jira-2008-11-14
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For example: I would like the ability to offer FLY on my estate irreguardless of the settings a parcel owner may use. Or, I would like to offer Everyone Object Creation, one again irreguardless of the parcel owner's setting. Or I would like to enforce AutoReturn setting at 60 minutes, once again irreguardless of the parcel owner settings.