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I do not believe it works this way, testing this with search using Second Life 1.23.0 (118378) Apr 24 2009 14:24:08 (Second Life Release Candidate) and Adult Content not checked brings back places that have prims in search with words that you cannot search on without Adult Content checked. Seems as long as the words are not in the Name or Description it will be returned in search.
I would be astounded if that's the way it turns out for the final release. There is absolutely no point in putting the filtering in place if you can put the same terms in prims and have them show up in search.
There is a difference between selling things that can be used in an adult way in a mature region and using adult content in an adult region.
If it is the case that show-in-search prims with adult keywords in their titles don't cause parcels to disappear from non-verified search, there is absolutely no point in adult filtering because people will just put the text into the prim names and leave the title and content innocent. And you can bet that once people start doing that, show-in-search items will cause plots to disappear from non-verified search.
As you say Harleen, there is a difference between selling adult items and having a location where those items can be used by the public in a mature way but (IMO) both are still adult, and LL does not differentiate between selling of adult items and adult entertainment areas in the title or description of a plot. I see no reason the same would not apply to items marked show in search. But true areas of adult content use and adult entertainment will be marked as adult regions and not show up in search without Adult Content checked anyway, so there would be no reason to try to circumvent search this way. I can't speak for LL, but I did not come away with the impression that selling adult items (as long as they do not depict the adult situations) had to be done in an adult region.
Harleen;
Woefully untrue, I'm afraid. Their most recent definitions alter PG and Mature as well as Adult. And selling the content without advertising it is an exercise in futility. Advertising it makes it adult (And their woefully inaccurate search terms & proposed methods deem a lot more than adult, adult). Even social references to alcohol are Mature now, meaning a house-fittings store in a PG sim that just happens to sell a bar-counter with visible bottles of alcohol or shotglasses or beer-steins, is Mature. This idiocy leaves very little untouched. 'Just selling' the content likely isn't an exemption, after reading thoroughly through their newest Adult policy FAQ. Which incidentally contains just about none of the compromises/statements Blondin made in the forums. Well all I can go on is how the search engine is currently reacting to search keywords in 1.23, words like alcohol and sexbeds do not give the CS exclusion message (Some terms in your search query were excluded due to content restrictions as clarified in the Community Standards.) when searched on even with only PG content checked.
...Sounds like the left hand man isn't speaking to the right, then, if that's the case, Harleen. The FAQ's saying one thing and the client's doing another. In and of itself that's a highly worrisome sign about how this whole mess will be implemented. I remember gambling and Concierge saying one thing was fine (free-play for-fun games), then G-team came along, handed out suspensions and destroyed content. In tame cases.
The FAQ also mentions it would only flag names and descriptions.
Either this is an exploit (allowing adult-named prims to show in non-adult search) or a potential griefing tool (booting a non-adult property off of non-adult search by placing an adult-named prim). Either way, it's a problem. Fixing this problem will break search in the most fundamental way. This is yet another example of the feces that will hit the fan when LL's adult segregation procedures are fully implemented.
Voted. Wow, I didn't think of this until I saw this JIRA, but it's true. If you had, for instance, 5 companies designing ferris wheels in SL, and one of them went around and dropped a "show in search" prim named "sex" on each of his competitors' parcels, it could succeed in filtering his competitors out of many search results. It is true that not all parcels on SL are using autoreturn, nor should they have to be! For that matter, we all know the show-in-search data is culled every night during a time window of a few hours, so with a little trial-and-error, a villain might even figure out what timeframe to drop a prim to be "registered" on land set with timed autoreturn.
Upgrading priority to Critical per the following definition:
If parcel listings that have been carefully screened soas to be visible to non-filtered searches, can be effectively "turned adult" by anyone with an auto-re-rezzing cube that shows itself in search with a dirty word for a name.. I'd call that reduced performance of the listings, and a major loss of functionality, and content (ie: your content being unfindable to (the unverified) half of the userbase) My understanding is the word filter works on the Input to search by dropping words. So "sex bed" reduces to "bed". The output side is not filtered. Enter "poseball" in PG search, and the third result reads " sexballs, multiposes, sex balls, sex furniture, poses ..."
Enter "sex bed" in PG search: 4590 results Search does not look at the prims located on the land when determining if a location is Adult or not. This behavior is not planned to change, so this shouldn't be a problem.
Thank you for bringing it up, though.. if prims are included sometime in the future, we'll have to make sure we keep this behavior in mind. |
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Bug
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Third Party prims can be used to poison a plots search page and make non-Adult plots hidden to non-verified AVs
Turning these off is tantamount to making your store so annoying for customers that they don't like to stay. Voted for this issue, and I linked up to the other related issues.
More reason all the adult search filtering needs to be halted and rethought.