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Key: SVC-4169
Type: Bug Bug
Status: Reopened Reopened
Priority: Showstopper Showstopper
Assignee: Unassigned
Reporter: eliz GossipGirl
Votes: 5
Watchers: 7
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2. Second Life Service - SVC

missing groups, unable to tp, tried everything

Created: 26/Apr/09 07:26 PM   Updated: Friday 02:55 PM
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Component/s: Groups, Performance, Teleport
Affects Version/s: 1.26 Server, 1.27 Server, 1.30 Server, 1.32 Server
Fix Version/s: None

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Last Triaged: 21/Oct/09 11:00 AM
Linden Lab Issue ID: DEV-41628


 Description  « Hide
EDIT: For reporters with this issue please see Beth Jardberg's comment - 27/Oct/09 09:35 PM on VWR-15929.

Try double-clicking the clock in the Windows system tray (in the lower-right corner of the screen), and verify the FULL date and time.

It's possible that your secure login is failing due to an incorrect date/time on your computer.

Objects and the terrain disappear

These are signs that you are (at least partially) disconnected from Second Life. While you're logged into Second Life, you're connecting to several different parts of the Second Life servers (for the region you're in, your inventory, your cash balance, etc.) It's possible to get disconnected from some parts of Second Life and not others.

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  • My groups are all missing and I am unable to join ANY group at all. (It does allow me to join it but after that it just freezes at the group profile with the 'join' button)
  • My profile shows that I am still in all my groups but..
  • I can't get any notices at all from my groups.
  • I can't tp inworld. I get logged out everytime I try to tp inworld.
  • Cannot access any land information

This problem affects my alt as well.
And I checked, there's no virus or whatever in my computer..

I have tried:

  • relogging several times
  • re-installing SL to be the latest version
  • cleared the cache and the group cache
  • rebooting my computer
  • my connection's fine
  • contacted Support – they REFUSE to help because i don't have a premium account
  • tried Prokofy Neva's method of deleting "settings.xml" and relogging

I have tried EVERYTHING and this problem has being going on for 4 days!
I REALLY REALLY NEED HELP WITH THIS, PLEASE!

Thanks.



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Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 26/Apr/09 07:36 PM
Can you take what is in Help>About Second LIfe... then copy and paste it in the environment box here.

eliz GossipGirl added a comment - 26/Apr/09 10:12 PM - edited
CPU: Intel Pentium M Series Processor (1694 MHz)
Memory: 495 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: Intel
Graphics Card: Intel 855GM
OpenGL Version: 1.3.0 - Build 4.14.10.4363

libcurl Version: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.7c zlib/1.2.3
J2C Decoder Version: KDU
Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.740000
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.23479 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.13_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 0/769 (0.0%)

i don't understand.. so what next?


Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 27/Apr/09 05:12 AM
You probably want to run with the graphics in low, under Edit>Preferences>Graphics tab Quality and Performance is set to Low. Might also want to make sure you have the latest graphics drivers. Your Intel chipset does not meet the minimum requirements for running Sencond Life, see Second Life - System Requirements.

Specifically:

** Second Life may not run on graphics cards other than the ones listed above. The following cards are NOT compatible with Second Life:

  • NVIDIA cards that report as a RIVA TNT or TNT2
  • ATI cards that report as RAGE, RAGE PRO, or RADEON 320M, 340M, 345M, or similar model numbers
  • Intel chipsets less than a 945 including Intel Extreme
  • Cards with the following branding: 3DFX, RIVA, TNT, SiS, S3, S3TC, Savage, Twister, Rage, Kyro, MILENNIA, MATROX

Winter Rexen added a comment - 27/Apr/09 11:30 AM
I am having this exact same problem, and I have been running SL fine for years. I know there is nothing wrong with the graphics card I am using or my chipset. Obviously, this is something that needs to be fixed within SL, and I would appreciate a resolution.

Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 27/Apr/09 11:51 AM
@Winter - very likely a different issue then this one since the OP's graphic card is clearly not supported. Can you at least post your environment.

Winter Rexen added a comment - 27/Apr/09 12:25 PM
I am currently using either the most up to date Second Life release client (1.22.11) or the Second Life client (1.22.11). I have the same problem in world no matter which client is used or if another avatar is logged at a different time, so it is not an avatar specific error. I have updated my drivers.

It was working fine this morning. I logged out and when I came back, I could no longer see my groups listed in the communications area. I can not teleport anywhere and get logged out if I try. I can not see land details where I live, and the media and voice refuse to connect and remain unselectable tabs. Sounds like the same issues to me.

Here is the information provided:

CPU: AMD (Unknown model) (2094 MHz)
Memory: 1791 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X1200 Series
OpenGL Version: 2.1.8543 Release

libcurl Version: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.7c zlib/1.2.3
J2C Decoder Version: KDU
Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.740000
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.23493 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.13_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 0/918 (0.0%)

As I said before, I have been running SL fine on this very computer, with not one single issue that is notable, so I am comfortable knowing it is not my system at this point.
Thanks for your time and help is finding the problem and helping me resolve things.


Winter Rexen added a comment - 27/Apr/09 12:48 PM
I have been watching when I log in, and I see that the client hesitates when it is "Initializing multi media." if that sheds any light on a possible cause.

Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 27/Apr/09 01:16 PM
Have you tried clearing cache (Edit>Preferences>Network>Clear Cache) and Advanced>Clear Group Cache?

Winter Rexen added a comment - 27/Apr/09 01:22 PM
Yes, I have cleared both caches.

Ellla McMahon added a comment - 27/Apr/09 01:35 PM
Winter, please try resetting your Settings to default (Note that this will reset ALL of your settings, so you will receive popups, as if you had just installed Second Life for the first time)
  • close the Second Life Viewer
  • use the Windows Folder Options to Show Hidden Files and Folders.
  • go to C:\Users\<Your Username>\AppData\Roaming\SecondLife\user_settings
  • rename the settings.xml file to old_settings.xml
  • go to C:\Users\<Your Username>\AppData\Roaming\SecondLife\cache
  • relog into Second Life and let your Inventory fully load

For a response tailored to your individual situation please Submit a Ticket with Support see JIRA Home page

Please run the TraceRoute How do I check for packet loss (network lag)? and attach the text file to your Ticket with Support .

Please check for any internet security programme issues Is my firewall responsible for problems with Second Life?

This article will show you how to get detailed information about the performance of your computer and the Second Life world Statistics Bar Guide

Thank you : )


Winter Rexen added a comment - 27/Apr/09 06:47 PM
This did not work either. I am still without voice, any media, teleporting, land information, and can not see any groups of mine.

This issue is certainly not resolved.


Winter Rexen added a comment - 27/Apr/09 06:47 PM
This issue is not resolved. And it certainly is a bug that is SL related.

eliz GossipGirl added a comment - 28/Apr/09 07:47 AM - edited
I never had a problem with SL previously even with the non-compatible graphics card.. and my quality and performance is set at low as well.
Previously, my quality and performance could be set at it's highest without any problems.. so i don't think this problem is related to the graphics.
It just suddenly happened out of the blue..

Winter Rexen added a comment - 28/Apr/09 07:50 AM
Same with me Eliz, so I am really irritated to be getting no help in fixing this. It obviously is a problem for quite a few people, I would think they would want to find the problem and fix it so that we can go on spending all those lindens!

I was fine one minute and logged back in to find it all messed up, so I know exactly what you mean.


eliz GossipGirl added a comment - 28/Apr/09 07:53 AM
I know! I used to go into sl almost everyday and sometimes for hours but since this happened, I can't do anything in sl and it is just so frustrating cos no one can help!

Winter Rexen added a comment - 28/Apr/09 07:56 AM
I honestly think it has something to do with media. I notice during log in that it hangs up (the load bar) when it gets to loading multimedia... it will sit there, stalled, and finally move on. Since I can not load any media or voice either, I think it may be related, but I am unsure.

How long have you had your problem? I am so frustrated.


eliz GossipGirl added a comment - 28/Apr/09 08:39 AM
I'm not sure about the media thing but during log in, the load bar also hangs for me when it loads multimedia.. is the multimedia new to the newest version of sl? cos previously, i didn't see such a problem for my previous version of sl..

this problem has been going on for 5 days.. ugh.
what about you? how long has this been going on?


Harleen Gretzky added a comment - 28/Apr/09 08:45 AM
Has anyone with this problem tried to fully uninstall and reinstall SL per the intructions here: How do I fully uninstall and reinstall Second Life?

eliz GossipGirl added a comment - 28/Apr/09 08:21 PM
i tried it.. didn't work

eliz GossipGirl added a comment - 30/Apr/09 08:18 PM - edited
update: when i try to access land information, it tells me that it is not available without server update.

what does this mean?


Adrielle Blaisdale added a comment - 14/May/09 10:20 PM
Hi there, managed to find someone who wrote about this issue. I also recently had this problem and I have the same stats for graphics as eliz. Is there any update on this issue?

Another point to add is using another viewer does not help too.

Thanks loads!


Ellla McMahon added a comment - 04/Jun/09 06:38 AM
For reporters with unsupported Graphics Cards please see System Requirements

Your computer must meet these REQUIREMENTS, or you may not be able to successfully participate in Second Life.

For a further response tailored to your individual situations please Submit a Ticket with Support see JIRA Home page

Thank you : )


Adrielle Blaisdale added a comment - 04/Jun/09 10:53 PM
Perhaps this is not an issue about unsupported Graphics Cards as it could work previously on our computers. If it is solely a Graphics Card problem, the viewer and the world would not have been able to load at all.

I have solved this issue however while reinstalling the viewers.

@Eliz: What I did was to uninstall the current newest SL viewer completely, make sure all the folders are gone. Then, install the 2nd newest viewer and test out. When I did that, I could tp as usual and the landmarks loaded well. After that, I reinstalled the current newest viewer and it worked too. Somehow I believe it is some internal setting that restarted with the installation of the older viewer. No idea, but at least things work now.

Occasionally you might meet the problem again, signified by the landmark details not loading again. When that happens, just restart the viewer and it will be gone.

Adrielle Blaisdale


Moon Metty added a comment - 12/Jun/09 03:59 PM
It's clear this is a recurring bug. Reopening.

My friend had the same problem. The symptoms are:

-Trying to teleport logs you out (no offline message to friends).
-Trying to cross a border is like bumping into a wall.
-I tried to edit my friend out, sitting on a box, but in her view she still was sitting on the box in the same region, even after I deleted the box.
-Groups don't show.
-Logging in stalls during "intitialising media".
-This all reminds of ghosted avatars, but a restart of the region does not help.
-Clearing cache, reinstalling second life, installing latest video drivers, etc ... does not help.

=======

I'm not sure what solved it for my friend. She contacted support, and I asked a Linden for help. The next day she was able to leave "Region California".


Lyndy Enoch added a comment - 21/Jun/09 10:12 AM - edited
Did this issue ever get resolved, as I have the same problem now - exactly as above, unable to tp, groups not loading, unable to access land info to change media stream etc, and can't hear music - been an issue for 4 days now - am waiting for a ticket to be responded to but "chat help" said they thing this is an internet connection issue???

Adrielle Blaisdale added a comment - 22/Jun/09 01:31 AM
Hi Lyndy, did you do anything before this problem arose? E.g installation of the new SL viewer. Try using an older SL viewer version. It might help, that's how I resolved my problem.

Adrielle


gil druart added a comment - 22/Jun/09 09:04 AM
Affects me too since last Thursday

Symptoms:

Log-in slow at the 'initialising media' stage
Adjacent regions not visible at region boundary
Attempt to tp to another region (any method) cause forced log-out
No Group info
No Land Info
Media controls greyed out

Present with viewers 1.22.11 and 1.23.4 (I cannot however confirm whether it affected 1.22.11 before 1.23.4 was installed)

NO repeat NO repeat for benefit of support staff NO changes in hardware at this end. This system has been stable with SL for 18 months+

This bug has occurred before, more than once, see SVC-972 for instance.

I'll repeat what I said last time (nobody listened then either) this is not a bug it is a failure mode. It may have more than one or multiple causes.

I suggest you all submit a Support Ticket 9but don't expect it to help much)


Lyndy Enoch added a comment - 22/Jun/09 12:34 PM - edited
like a previous post, the problem seemed to have resolved this afternoon when traffic lower, however back to normal this evening, and situation is as described by Gil including seeing water everywhere at the edge of sims and not the adjoining land - stared on version1.22 on Thursday, and took update when this didnt resolve overnight, have completely uninstalled and reinstalled a few times now

kayla Mekanic added a comment - 17/Jul/09 11:36 AM
This same problem happens to me a LOT almost every single day. in fact its happening right now and its making me really frustrated. its starting to make me think second life is not that fun anymore since i cant even do anything but build in a little spot filled with lag and yellow submurines...

danni bekkers added a comment - 09/Aug/09 05:53 AM
I have been having the same issue for over a week now, it seems to be intermittent, but is present more often than not. It affects more than one account, full reinstall of SL doesn't help, including manual clearing of cache. Also tried a 3rd party viewer.

My specifics:

Second Life 1.23.4 (123523) Jun 9 2009 08:32:14 (Second Life Release Candidate)

CPU: Intel Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon (0.25 micron process) with external L2 cache (1995 MHz)
Memory: 3039 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570
Windows Graphics Driver Version: 8.59-090213a-076786C-Acer
OpenGL Version: 2.1.8537 Release

libcurl Version: libcurl/7.18.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
J2C Decoder Version: KDU
Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.740000
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.25982 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.21_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 0/35924 (0.0%)

Sometimes relogging to a water sim will correct this, but not always. I have tried logging on via SLite, but my groups list remains empty.


Reiko Fimicoloud added a comment - 01/Oct/09 09:56 PM
I'm having the same issue and i'm totally within system requirments on the desktop.
I use the vista laptop, and while i'm still within system requirements, this issue doesnt happen.
(I'm unable to figure out the problem as my laptop can't run SL but the vista one can.. and that's with my mother somewhere for the weekend)

It happens on multiple viewers, open source, SL and otherwise

GreenLife Emerald Viewer 1.23.4 (673) Aug 25 2009 01:59:47 (GreenLife Emerald Viewer)
Release Notes

Built with MSVC version 1400

You are at 203335.6, 235088.0, 21.5 in Undraeth located at sim8446.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.39.5:13010)
Second Life Server 1.30.0.133784
Release Notes

CPU: Intel Core 2 Series Processor (2333 MHz)
Memory: 2047 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
Windows Graphics Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6932
OpenGL Version: 2.1.2

libcurl Version: libcurl/7.18.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
J2C Decoder Version: KDU
Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.740000
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.27270 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.21_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 240/45181 (0.5%)

those are my stats, and please linden labs i've been on SL off and on since 2006 and 2007, fix this as we've known for years that this is an unstable simulator, and is prone to many growing pains.

I really want to see this get fixed, because i'm tired of missing inventory, groups and more - and being unable to tp sucks the most.
i crash when i tp, i lose items, my groups wont show on multiple accounts .. you name it.


Alexa Linden added a comment - 06/Oct/09 08:09 AM

For a response tailored to your individual situation please Submit a Ticket with Support http://secondlife.com/support/

Moon Metty added a comment - 14/Oct/09 09:05 AM
Reopening for a new triage, as suggested by Soft.

This is an easy to recognize bug, and it is known internally. All incoming jira-reports are closed as "contact support".
Support does "something" to make the problem go away. However, to this day it is still unclear to me what that something is.

The bug appears to be triggered by connection-problems. Then it's there to stay, until "something" happens, and everything is back to normal.
What support does is in my (limited) view a workaround, not a bug-fix.

=======

All I ask is for this bug to be tracked on the PJira, for the following reasons:

-Bughunters sometimes find additional information that can lead to a clear reproduction.

-Sometimes the internal Jira gets stuck, and without PJira there's little hope it will ever get unstuck.

-Tracking one bug sometimes leads to finding the cause of other bugs.

-Residents who report this bug on the Jira will feel a lot better when they see they're not the only one affected, and that it's a known problem. Especially when you wrote in your report: "I contacted support over a week ago, but I didn't get a response", and your report is closed as ... contact support.

-Support will have a much easier time when people can just say: "I'm suffering from MISC-so-and-so".

-Ella (and other people who do a remarkable job maintaining the PJira) will have a much easier time when she can just link incoming reports to a central MISC-issue.


Janna Harsley added a comment - 26/Oct/09 11:29 AM
K, then...I have the exact same issues as above: No Groups showing, TP causes logout, no media options although the Preference section is checked to play. I tried to submit a ticket to no avail because: although I've been in SL since 2007, and although my husband and I both work in SL and turn over a great deal of money in the SL economy, I am a basic account and therefore do not warrant any support on this issue by LL. Go freakin' figure!

This problem occured out of nowhere; everything was working fine one day, the next is went in the proverbial toilet. Since I hostess 7 days a week and need access to group notices, and also need to be able to GET there, this is a huge problem and there seems to be no one who will help. I have reinstalled SL completely 3 times now, cleared all the caches, done whatever anyone suggests and to no avail. Adrielle, I tried what you suggested and I cannot log in with an older viewer since it now says 1.23.5 is required to use SL.

I have Intel CPU Core2, 3GB
2.5 GB RAM
nVidia GeForce 9800GT video card

Interesting to note is that if I log my husband's AV in on my viewer, he has all the same issues. If I log in on his viewer, all is well in tinsel town.
All this has worked impeccably until this latest major PIA. This is very frustrating and could cause us to give up the "SL experience" if some support cannot be obtained.


Annabel Muircastle added a comment - 27/Oct/09 09:53 PM
I have exactly the same issue....

Janna Harsley added a comment - 28/Oct/09 12:18 AM
K, then...I went back and installed the old viewer 1.22.11 and after logging in the first time on that viewer, all the problems still existed...however after logging out and back in again several hours later...Poof...problems gone and all back to normal. Hmmmm...

It's interesting to note that I did file a support ticket that they finally looked at (guess they figured out I wasn't going away until they answered me) and it was in progress. Did the older viewer solve the problem, or did support do that "something" that Moon refers to?? :~) Those of you still having the problems outlined here...try reinstalling to 1.22.11...might help you too..


Moon Metty added a comment - 28/Oct/09 05:24 PM - edited
Please note Ella's edit to the description:

Check if the time and date are set correctly on your system.


Tranquillity Dexler added a comment - 03/Nov/09 11:19 AM
Does anyone have an explanation of the most likely technical reasons for this issue? For example, I am trying to debug this for a friend and a description of what is probably happening in these scenarios (dropped/blocked packets on a specific port, etc) would help me to resolve the problem. I have checked the time etc and that does not appear to be the issue. It seems strange that enough data would be getting through to the viewer to log in, see objects, walk around, etc, but some other data is being blocked or lost somewhere down the line. It seems as if in these situations some ports or data flows are blocked while others are working just fine?

Moon Metty added a comment - 03/Nov/09 12:44 PM
Here are some comments from Andrew's office hour:

[2009/10/29 17:55] Andrew Linden: Moon, I'm guessing there is some cert that is getting hashed with the current time.
[2009/10/29 17:56] Andrew Linden: The cert is probably used in some web-services access verification.
[2009/10/29 17:56] Andrew Linden: er.. the hash of the cert is being checked and the server is using its notion of the time

=======

Apparently the clock isn't the only thing that gets hashed.

Joshua Hoch had this bug for over 3 weeks. When we found out about the clock, I called him to check, but it didn't solve the problem.
Then last sunday the US switched to wintertime, and some hours after the change the bug vanished for Joshua. And it didn't return.

Maybe it's worth checking regional settings ...


Tranquillity Dexler added a comment - 03/Nov/09 04:34 PM
My fault. The date and time were in fact wrong. I saw the month being October and as it was just halloween I didn't think anything of it. Setting the month correctly fixed the issue.

Thank you for your help.


Reiko Fimicoloud added a comment - 08/Nov/09 04:51 PM
As told to comment on this issue further as mine was duplicate obviously i'll repost my issue, as none of it has to do with date and time - as all the computers in the house are linked to a time sync thing with windows. Previous comment frmo my sub task: I can't contact support on it as i'm a BASIC user, i do not have a paid account. It only happens once in a while, and i have ALL NEW viewers, i've uninstalled all the old ones and reinstalled new ones, if i clear the cache this happens too!! I crash when tele-porting. my groups wont show up .....this isn't something that is going to go away.If it was an issue i could handle with support - i'd be contacting support, not putting it on JIRA. It's not just me, it's several other people on the second life thing.

PLEASE FIX THIS.
I run a photography studio, and i DJ and i love to shop- this is kinda getting retarded that i can't leave my sim after about an hour of being on SL.

RANT: Is second life only about those who make money for L$ now? Those who are spending money on the paid subscriptions? I can't afford mine, i would love to but i'm in new zealand and i can't pay 200 NZD a year! /end rant (I know LL isn't all about this, it's just that it seems that the people who own more and make more get priority) Unfortunatley i can't afford to pay for a full year subscription, and try to pay for things in SL by just EARNING lol.

I can't IM groups, i can't see my groups..
I'm only missing inventory on ONE of my computers and not the others..

Second Life WORKS on a wireless setting - yes i understand it works BEST on wired - i'm on the wired computer right now, and i can't leave the sim i'm on.

One computer is missing 2000+ Inventory, but the groups and teleporting and uploading issue doesnt happen on that computer (That is a Windows vista laptop running 1gb of ram with an internal nvidia card.)

The computer that ISNT missing inventory, but everything else isn't working (and recently the scripts and objects of mine and several other things stopped working) - Is a Windows Xp Nvidia 512 graphics card - and is the computer that's hooked to the router in a house hold of wireless networked laptops. (Ie: this one is wired)

We're on DSL, we're with Orcon in NZ here.. I dont know what else could be the problem - Regional settings have been checked - SL on the desktop computer should work, as we're in NZ and the clock is set to the correct time and correct time zone

I know people are trying to work their hardest on this, and i appreciate everything people are trying to do to fix this problem ... i dont want to sound unappreciative, but this seems to not end up being dealt with LOL. It keeps getting resolved, and then nothing works again

Thanks in advance!


Aaaloha Numbanumba added a comment - 11/Nov/09 02:35 PM
Im having the same trouble.
More people at the sim confirm they are experiencing the same issue.

You are at 279945.4, 247896.9, 44.5 in Combat Core located at sim3576.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.22.57:12035)
Second Life Server 1.32.0.136920

In my case seems only to be a problem for that sim.
I can TP around the grid without any problems. The problem happens when i teleport to this sim, once in the sim my groups are gone and I cannot teleport anymore. Also neighbouring simulators will not render/rez, simborders are gone and i fly offworld without leaving the region.

My clock has not been changed.


Moon Metty added a comment - 11/Nov/09 03:11 PM
Maybe the clock of the region's host is set incorrectly.

Remember, you can escape the region by choosing a starting location from the login-screen.


Aaaloha Numbanumba added a comment - 12/Nov/09 06:53 AM
^server restart fixed things for now atleast for this particular sim.

Reiko Fimicoloud added a comment - 20/Nov/09 02:49 PM
It happens to me on ANY sim i'm on o_O and any body in this house has the same issue on the same computer. @__@ kinda odd if ya ask me.

I'd be on mainland and it would still happen.. o_O.
Hmm I'll check clocks again, i'll see what i can do..
it just it's REALLY random, it wasnt happening for about a week and it just started again.