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Torley Linden added a comment - 26/Mar/07 10:59 AM
Thanks, confirming the need to deed is intended behavior, and a change from earlier functionality. I know it's not as easy as before, and the inworld help text will be changed to clarify.
I'd like to re-open this issue as I want to appeal the decision that this is the intended behaviour.
There is ZERO reason that I should have to give up my land to my group just to let one or two friends set it as their home location, the whole point of the new group permissions was to make these things easier and instead it changes functionality that was perfectly fine before? If anything the new group functionality gives us LESS reason to change it, since groups can now be fine-tuned to allow/disallow setting to home on group SET land. Otherwise all this does is relegate setting land to group to nothing more than auto-return and access controls. I can let people in a group access my land, but not let them set-to-home? I have to strongly object to changing of behaviours like this without any obvious community consultation/feedback. Therefore I view this very much as a BUG as the functionality is not at all what I expected it to be and it was BROKEN by an update. If Lindens want to change behaviours we're all used to you have to provide us mechanisms to keep the old functionality if we wish, or allow community feedback first so we can tell you exactly how much we don't want it to change! Noting; this appears to be affecting main-land too, as people in my group that are DEFINITELY set to allow setting to home are unable to do it. I seem to recall being told this was 'fixed' in an update but it doesn't seem to have happened.
Further addition (I wish comments could be edited too!); A compromise could be to simply add an option to parcel settings similar to the object access except it would be:
Allow set-to-home:
The choice can be any combination of group and/or access-list (ie you can allow one or both to set to home), OR you can choose to let everyone set-to-home OR you can select none of them, in which case only the owner (if not deeded to group) can set the land to home. These are the kinds of things that LL should be doing if they absolutely HAVE to change functiionality we all knew and loved before =( This "set to home" issue is NOT limited to private islands. Please fix to again allow group members to set-to-home on any private land as it was prior to September 2006.
Linked internally, and thanks for appealing. We'll consider doing this.
just another renter adding her voice to this!
this needs to be sorted i dont wish to set my land to group just so condo renters can set home to their condo it worked fine before
can this be resolved soon ? please ? Please fix this and any other land settings that are not financially related. People shouldn't have to deed land to a group to allow many of the land permissions. Deeding land to a group should be for shared financial responsibilites, it shouldn't be for basic settings like setting that land as home. Deeding land to a group should be for people who actually group own land, all you've done with this change is make people who are the only real owners act like groups, when in reality it's a single person with the financial responsibilities.
If i buy land then surely it is up to me who can set to home on it. Apparently this never used to be a problem a few months ago. It was sneaked in and was never resolved. It appears to be constantly ignored with every Version that is released.
Please fix this, the only work around is to deed to group, let people set to home then sell back to yourself. Not a very good workaround and should only be done with people that you trust 100%
I hope somone here has taken note of the OP's compromise idea. Sounds like a good idea to me.
I personally do not own any land, but this is rediculous. I have friends who are landowners and I can not set to home and have to carry a LM around with me. You have taken away peoples rights as landowners, what is the point in actually owning land if you can not decided who can or can not set to home on it. Seems a bit daft to me. I have a friend who had to deed her land to a group, let her BF set to home then sell it back to herself, it's stupid they live together for gods sake lol. Probably went halves on buying the land (not that i think that is a good idea) but one is treated like a bloody visitor unless they use the workaround. My partner has already commented on this, but it is nonsensical to have to basically give up control of one's land just to not only allow others to set home, but to allow others to act as custodians (control access/ban lists, return objects, etc.). This needs to be fixed, the final say should be the land owner's but they should be able to delegate some responsibilities as well as make their friends, partners, and tenants feel welcome.
so looks like i am not the only one !! will it get put back the way it was ... please ?
I 37th it!
Yeah, I should be allowed to let people make my land "home" without having to give it up. There shouldn't be much to consider! As the owner of a private estate, I can presumably take back the land even if I accidentally close a group that I had deeded it to. Nonetheless, voting for this as I was wary about deeding to a group land that I had paid 1695US to purchase. I also own a mainland sim and that too is deeded, but primarily because I need the 10% land bonus to stay with 195US tier.
It's my intention to become a land-owner, but this is a serious concern for me, as it interferes with my ability to rent land with full functionality.
It's as much a psychological issue as it is a functional one, as I'm sure there are practical work-arounds. But certainly, if I rent land or a condo and I am expecting it to be my virtual "home," I really do want it to be able to set it as my home. Please fix this. I have bought land myself so i don't want to deed it. But my girlfriend who lives with me can't set home to her own home.... Thats insane!
I would like to see this fixed as well. My husband, along with a few close friends, cannot set my land to their home. This is a big issue that needs to be fixed.
Same issue on Mainland. I own parcel in Chamcook and had to deed part of my land in order to set group home for her and 1 other friend. To me this is unacceptable risk, as I just gave aprtner of mine full financial control of the use of my own land for which I pay USD/ annually and monthly. I was not resident when things were normal before, but it would be cool if you could fix this. Becuase of what I had to do I lost much of my furnishings in home place and prims went to my club parcel. I am NOT deeding my land to 76 other peeps in my group.
I thought that oning land gave me considerable rights over those who do not? why does this give them the same status now? I ask, what is the motivation for removing the ability for Residents of a Group to set home on land that is set to that Group?
It seems there was a deliberate decision to remove that functionality. Under Groups -> Members & Roles -> Abilities -> Parcel Powers -> Allow 'Set Home To Here' on group land the following description appears: "Members in a Role with this Ability can use World menu > Set Home to Here on a parcel deeded to this group." This is now clearly indicating parcel must be deeded to a group for this functionality to work. Attempting to forcibly set home to here, by wearing the group tag with the correct roles assigned and displayed over the name, results in "You can only set your 'Home Location' on your land or at a mainland Infohub." Of course, this resident's current home happens to be GuRlyWood in front of Gurl6. This location has NOTHING to do with the Resident - no affiliations with this location, yet it's their home. A paradox, it seems... I agree with Lum, we've not even been told why it changed. As an estate owner, I'd love my residents to be able to allow their partners / friends to set home to their land without having to deed the land, as I generally restrict the ability to transfer land (which affects deeds too).
i cant say it better than they have above please fix it so anyone can set their home who is in a group.
Being one who has spent countless hours trying to be able to set there home position on my RL partners home, I came here to find a solution, only to find a bug that has snuck in with no one in Linden Land caring,...Come on people, I and my partner pay to play, so lets have some action...
Please fix this issue. It makes no sense for it not to work.
how many votes are needed? any news on this?
Please, guys? At least tell us WHY this was "intended"
What was broken that this fixed? If nothing was broken, what was your rationale? I'm with stoney lockjaw on this one - My partner bought some estate land so that we could share a home in SL and being the geek of the partnership, I dealt with the building and the furnishings... now MY house cant be my home. This does not appear rational. At least tell us the reason so we can understand! I'm late to the party but wanted to raise my hand in asking for this one, also. I recently gave up my mainland plot to share space with my partner, and now I am told that I can't set my home to our land. After two years in SL and always owning my own land, it seems like a kick in the face to have to rez at an infohub EVERY TIME I log in.
Please fix this. In order to donate land so others can set their home position you must tier up to the next level if only for one month. I think this explains why this is intended. I can see absolutely no other purpose.
Looks like it was done and closed in the 1.19 server - checking with the developer to make sure.
 fixed a long time ago. please close it if no new complaints.
Why was it done? Why did someone arbitrarily decide that they know what's best for everyone and change a long established and heavily used feature without offering justification or alternatives? I found the ability to let people set land as their home location without having to deed it useful, yet there is now no way to do this.
There are a whole slew of other changes that have been made to SL over the years that were never justified, and which offered no support for people who were happy with the old behaviour. It is a dangerous precedent to set as unlike other cases, this behaviour did not go against any pre-determined description. It was not an obvious bug like the ability to evade sensors for example. Is it too much to ask that any behaviour that is changed when it is not clearly "broken" behaviour, be replaced with an option so that we (the land-owners) can choose what behaviour we prefer? @Haravikk
Why did you reopen this issue ? Bao Linden is right: that annoying change has been reverted and you can know set your home on non-deeded land as long as you pertain to the same group as the land itself (no need to be the land owner either). Ack, my apologies, I tried this earlier but had trouble, seems to work though.
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Members of a group can't set their home location when land is only set to a group and not deeded
