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Key: SVC-2826
Type: Sub-task Sub-task
Status: Resolved Resolved
Resolution: Duplicate
Priority: Major Major
Assignee: Unassigned
Reporter: Alynna Vixen
Votes: 78
Watchers: 11
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SVC-2825

Group Ban Support for Second Life

Created: 18/Oct/07 04:02 PM   Updated: 16/Sep/09 10:33 AM
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Component/s: Groups
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It is generally thought that a group that is 'open' is generally welcoming most of the population of SL to join its group. However there are many security concerns for open groups that are not addressed by Second Life. Among those include:
1) A person ejected from a group is still part of the group chat until they log off.
2) A person can typically easily rejoin an open group they have been ejected from.
This allows griefers to persistently grief a particular group and gives very little option for the group except to either (1) tolerate the behaviour or (2) make the group a closed/approval based group. Neither of these are the ideal solution.

This is an official request for a "Group Ban" tab on the group dialog that would provide the following functionality:

  • Provide a list of people (300 seems to be the norm) who are banned from joining the group)
  • Provide a button leading to a "person selector", allowing people to be added to this list. Being added to this list should perform the following functions:
    1) Ejection from the group
    2) Termination of their group chat session with the aformentioned group
    3) Denial of permission to rejoin the group (even when the group is an open one)
    At the Linden's option, depending on complexity, the following option would also be useful:
    4) A checkbox that enforces a ban from land owned or set to the group for those in this group ban list.
  • Provide a button to unban people from the group.

Note that I am not proposing that these things happen through a group ejection. This would make group ejection an effective warning to those acting inappropriately.

I believe this feature would improve the state of open groups on Second Life. If you agree, please vote on this proposal.



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Rhiannon Ferraris added a comment - 25/Oct/07 03:48 AM
Something does need to be done for open groups where there is no longer a group owner who would have the above mentioned powers. The questions in my mind is 'who is doing the banning' and 'what recourse would someone have if anyone could ban anyone else'? Belonging to another group with administrators who enforce the rules, it is sometimes found the initial situation was not as it seemed and there is a process internally within the group to put your side forward and request to be unbanned.

I think the proposal needs more thought and i believe that even in an open group, people who spend a lot of time with that group need to step up and take responsibility for overseeing something like this. Now if the owner of the group has left SL or is no longer active, then perhaps there needs to be a way to designate a new owner, this may be the fix that is needed. But as long as there is a group owner they can distribute permission to others to ban someone from the group, and they remain that way until someone with the authority "unbans" them.


Drew Dwi added a comment - 11/Mar/08 10:41 AM
just a note, some of this has been fixed...

if your ejected from an open group, you can't rejoin it without an invite.
also if your ejected from a group, your chat session is forcefully closed, there was a lingering bug in 1.18.x that didn't cause this to happen always but I believe this has been fixed in 1.19.x


Zai Lynch added a comment - 06/Jun/08 09:02 AM

jen shikami added a comment - 14/Aug/08 11:55 AM
Just spotted Drew's March comment. As noted in another related JIRA, testing reveals that the "you can't rejoin" theory is not correct. So, this issue is still wide open and awaiting solution.

Gordon Wendt added a comment - 16/Sep/09 10:33 AM
Duplicate of SVC-2825