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Summary: classified ads will post and continue to appear in search, even if the account has insufficient funds to cover the classified fees. This is enabling people to post extremely expensive classified ads for free, and skewing the search results. – Hypatia
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MY Question has to do with Classified ads and their Impact on the SL economy.
For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Surprised. What happened to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar amount back to 0 (zero) then Canceled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
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Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
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Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
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Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
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Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
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Summary: classified ads will post and continue to appear in search, even if the account has insufficient funds to cover the classified fees. This is enabling people to post extremely expensive classified ads for free, and skewing the search results. – Hypatia
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MY Question has to do with Classified ads and their Impact on the SL economy.
For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Surprised. What happened to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar amount back to 0 (zero) then Canceled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
A????
Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
A????
Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
A????
Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
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Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
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$ DRAIN ON SL ECONOMY WITH THE HELP OF CLASSIFIEDS
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$ DRAIN ON SL ECONOMY WITH THE HELP OF CLASSIFIEDS (FREE CLASSIFIED AD EXPLOIT)
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made changes - 14/Jul/08 07:20 PM
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$ DRAIN ON SL ECONOMY WITH THE HELP OF CLASSIFIEDS (FREE CLASSIFIED AD EXPLOIT)
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$ DRAIN ON SL ECONOMY WITH THE HELP OF CLASSIFIEDS
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made changes - 14/Jul/08 07:47 PM
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made changes - 14/Jul/08 07:50 PM
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$ DRAIN ON SL ECONOMY WITH THE HELP OF CLASSIFIEDS
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Classifieds still appear in search despite insufficient lindens to cover fee
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made changes - 14/Jul/08 08:05 PM
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made changes - 14/Jul/08 08:08 PM
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Description
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For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Suprized. What happend to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar ammount back to 0 (zero) then Cancled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
A????
Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
A????
Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
A????
Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
A????
Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
A????
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Summary: classified ads will post and continue to appear in search, even if the account has insufficient funds to cover the classified fees. This is enabling people to post extremely expensive classified ads for free, and skewing the search results.
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For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Suprized. What happend to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar ammount back to 0 (zero) then Cancled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
A????
Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
A????
Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
A????
Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
A????
Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
A????
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made changes - 14/Jul/08 09:53 PM
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Summary
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Classifieds still appear in search despite insufficient lindens to cover fee
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Drain on SL economy thanx to Classifieds
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made changes - 14/Jul/08 10:18 PM
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Summary
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Drain on SL economy thanx to Classifieds
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Classifieds still appear in search despite insufficient lindens to cover fee
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made changes - 14/Jul/08 10:35 PM
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Summary
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Classifieds still appear in search despite insufficient lindens to cover fee
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Drain on SL economy thanx to Classifieds
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Description
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Summary: classified ads will post and continue to appear in search, even if the account has insufficient funds to cover the classified fees. This is enabling people to post extremely expensive classified ads for free, and skewing the search results.
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For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Suprized. What happend to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar ammount back to 0 (zero) then Cancled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
A????
Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
A????
Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
A????
Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
A????
Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
A????
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MY Question has to do with Classified ads and thier Impact on the SL economy.
For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Suprized. What happend to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar ammount back to 0 (zero) then Cancled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
A????
Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
A????
Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
A????
Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
A????
Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
A????
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made changes - 14/Jul/08 10:50 PM
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Description
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MY Question has to do with Classified ads and thier Impact on the SL economy.
For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Suprized. What happend to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar ammount back to 0 (zero) then Cancled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
A????
Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
A????
Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
A????
Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
A????
Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
A????
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Summary: classified ads will post and continue to appear in search, even if the account has insufficient funds to cover the classified fees. This is enabling people to post extremely expensive classified ads for free, and skewing the search results. -- Hypatia
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MY Question has to do with Classified ads and thier Impact on the SL economy.
For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Suprized. What happend to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar ammount back to 0 (zero) then Cancled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
A????
Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
A????
Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
A????
Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
A????
Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
A????
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made changes - 15/Jul/08 08:41 AM
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Summary
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Drain on SL economy thanx to Classifieds
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Drain on SL economy thanx to Classifieds (FREE CLASSIFIED AD EXPLOIT)
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made changes - 15/Jul/08 09:22 AM
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Summary
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Drain on SL economy thanx to Classifieds (FREE CLASSIFIED AD EXPLOIT)
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Drain on SL economy thanks to Classifieds (FREE CLASSIFIED AD EXPLOIT)
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Description
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Summary: classified ads will post and continue to appear in search, even if the account has insufficient funds to cover the classified fees. This is enabling people to post extremely expensive classified ads for free, and skewing the search results. -- Hypatia
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MY Question has to do with Classified ads and thier Impact on the SL economy.
For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Suprized. What happend to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar ammount back to 0 (zero) then Cancled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
A????
Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
A????
Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
A????
Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
A????
Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
A????
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Summary: classified ads will post and continue to appear in search, even if the account has insufficient funds to cover the classified fees. This is enabling people to post extremely expensive classified ads for free, and skewing the search results. -- Hypatia
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MY Question has to do with Classified ads and their Impact on the SL economy.
For the past 4 weeks I ran a small experiment with paid classified adverts on SL. It is a follows, 4 weeks ago I set up an ALT on a friends computer I gave that alt 50$L . this alt had no Business to run & no source of $L dollar income. I then placed a 50$L classified on SL with this alt. the classified was for a sandbox for the cost of 50$L. Before I paid for the classified I checked off the "AUTO RENEW EACH WEEK" button with the understanding that this alt would not LOG ON again for the next 4 weeks. so I clicked OK and paid 50$L to run a classified for a Public sandbox. Each new week I would SEARCH classifieds to check the status of the classified. Low and Behold each week with out fault the classified was still Running. 4 weeks passed and still the classified was active for a cost of 50$L dollars when the 4th week was up, I returned to my friends house LOGGED IN to the ALT account to find that it's L$ dollars was in the Red! The ALT had -$L150 thats right it had Negative one hundred and fifty linden dollars! This was Caused Because Linden Lab Deducted 50$L each week from that account for the cost of "AUTO RENEWING" the classified. This is ALSO TRUE for 30$L a week LAND CLASSIFIEDS that are AUTO RENEWED. With the Results of this Experiment I was Shocked but not Surprised. What happened to the Alt you may ask? easy, I sent it 150$L to bring it's $L dollar amount back to 0 (zero) then Canceled the account. so my Questions are as follows
Q.1 - does this work for people who take out 100000$L and up classifieds?
A????
Q.2 - how does this effect the Economic stats seen on the SL website for Classifieds?
A????
Q.3 - How does is effect the Exchange rate for $L dollars to US or Canadian Dollars?
A????
Q.4- are People who Run as I refer to it "Classified Alts\bots" liable for the Negative balance of thier accout?
A????
Q.5- how does Linden Lab plan to Prevent this from happening in the future?
A????
Q.6- Does Linden Lab really expect people to Believe that some one is paying 500000$L a week for a classified? that is over 500 US$
A????
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made changes - 15/Jul/08 09:52 AM
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Drain on SL economy thanks to Classifieds (FREE CLASSIFIED AD EXPLOIT)
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Drain on SL economy thanks to Classifieds (FREE AUTO-RENEW CLASSIFIED ADs)
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made changes - 15/Jul/08 10:58 AM
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WorkingOnIt Linden
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made changes - 15/Jul/08 11:01 AM
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Drain on SL economy thanks to Classifieds (FREE AUTO-RENEW CLASSIFIED ADs)
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Classifieds still appear in search despite insufficient lindens
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made changes - 15/Jul/08 11:02 AM
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Classifieds still appear in search despite insufficient lindens
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Classifieds still appear in search despite insufficient lindens to cover fee
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made changes - 15/Jul/08 11:02 AM
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made changes - 13/Nov/08 04:54 PM
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Simple, the alt pays for the first time.
Then it auto renews once, and bam the account is suspended instantly and automatically for being that far in the negative. All this without any harm to the economy, seeing as they did actualy pay for the first term.