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Key: SVC-1786
Type: Bug Bug
Status: Fix Pending Fix Pending
Priority: Normal Normal
Assignee: Simon Linden
Reporter: Zi Ree
Votes: 10
Watchers: 5
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Slow Walking with Space Bar does not work on Havok 4

Created: 08/Mar/08 12:12 PM   Updated: 04/May/08 07:01 AM
Component/s: Physics
Affects Version/s: Havok4 Beta, 1.20.0 Server
Fix Version/s: 1.20.0 Server

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Environment: any
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Linden Lab Issue ID: DEV-12773
Linden Lab Internal Branch: Havok4-5


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Holding down the space bar and walking causes the avatar on Havok 1 sims to walk very slowly. On Havok 4 the avatar doesn't move at all. The same goes for jumping, although falling down can be slowed down on Havok 4 by pressing the space bar, too.

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Sean Heying added a comment - 29/Mar/08 04:35 AM
No freeze in H4 on the OS X client and no slow down in H1 on the OS X client.

Maybe it was a fixed bug in the windows client?

That it doesn't work in OS X as you describe sort of suggests it might be.


Darien Caldwell added a comment - 29/Mar/08 09:35 AM - edited
Yes, it seems broken. Cant move forward with spacebar down. I tried pressing space while jumping, and got permanently stuck in the jump animation. I had to press the Fly button to get out of it.

Drew Dwi added a comment - 02/Apr/08 10:03 AM
I was under the impression this was an intended result of the update, as being able to travel through the air by hitting your space bar over and over again was basically a 'hack' of the physics/gravity in havok1.

Darien Caldwell added a comment - 05/Apr/08 12:32 PM
I don't know of anything releated to traveling through the air with the spacebar. This relates to the feature that used to be present where you could stop yourself from falling by pressing space, allowing for a gentle descent. As well as the Original poster mentioned, it could be used to make very slow movements while walking. These features were even presented to the usebase in a Torley Linden Video, they weren't bugs or exploits.

Simon Linden added a comment - 07/Apr/08 10:14 AM
This is fixed for walking - press space after up arrow and you will get a slow walk.

FWIW this was never designed as a feature ... in Havok1, it just happened to work that way. Space should stop the avatar, and under Havok1 it happened to combine with the walk code to give a usable slow motion. That said, it seems pretty useful so I fixed it to work together.

I'm not sure about combining this with other motion ... there are other bugs that are higher priority, but perhaps sometime in the future we should look at avatar motion and see if there's a comprehensive design that could include slow-motion modes.


Sasha Nurmi added a comment - 09/Apr/08 06:25 AM
its not only on the OS X it happens allso in the windows client
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Mini Pinion added a comment - 02/May/08 11:51 AM
The fix, as described by Simon Linden, seems to be added to the servers already. I want to add though, that the way it worked in H1 seemed more beneficial to me.

Back then, it was possible to press and hold the space bar before starting to move, allowing very precise movement, even in tight spots. Doing the same now, will prevent any movement.

The only way to get the effect is through pressing the movement key first, which needs a better timing with pressing the space bar afterwards and makes it much more difficult to position yourself with the same precision as in the past.


Aimee Trescothick added a comment - 04/May/08 07:01 AM
You can do it now, sort of, by holding the space-bar first, then holding a direction key, then momentarily releasing the space-bar. That gets you the slow walk without having to start walking first.

The old way was definitely preferable though, both in terms of usefulness and in being more intuitive to use. Before if you were trying to finely adjust position you could hold space and then just tap the direction keys to take a single short step at a time. Now, if you try to do it by holding both keys and momentarily releasing the space-bar, unless you also release the direction key you continue in the slow walk.