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Apotheus Silverman added a comment - 17/Feb/08 04:15 PM
Also reported via support ticket 4051-4499462. Leo @ the concierge told me he relayed the information to those who can fix the problem.
!!! i am suffering email outages related (semi/slighty/none at all??) to this. my vendor comms rely on email only... the year or so back when these email communication probs first started popping up, i read a little about xml thinking of converting over to it, and found that it also suffered from this. bleah... glad i caught this today lol before i seriously reconsidered reprogramming.
is there: previous fixes like copying the object or taking/rerezzing it, do not seem to be working this time. sim resets may be the only fix. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ UPDATE 080228 i can confirm that 'slave'/out-of-sim messages are not reaching home sim at least (1st stage not reached, remote-to-home)... ALSO can confirm that 2nd stage does not occur on further random occassion (home reads incoming message and deploys a responding reply; outgoing email does not make it to the remote vendor). ..... there is okay, let's get the ducks in a row... 1) inworld/insim coms (i have 'slave' vendors within the same sim) - ALWAYS okay and on-time since all out-of-sim comms sim to the be the sticking point, i'd recommend looking there... i have before twice fixed this problem by setting up new home-boxes and re-keying the rest of the network (prior to the past week's events; i am sure this would be an appropriate fix, however that is a long haul for something that should be bug-free, considering a previously normally-working network box now cannot reconnect... ) this seems to happen in a haphazard manner on either end, in both 'inworld networking' formats, xml or email, which makes me think there is a) either something wrong with caching/storing ongoing/established out-of-sim connections (in-sim though has worked completely and reliably though), b) overactive/buggy email/xml capping, or c) can objects 'mute' other objects, like avis?? is this a bug there?? 'ANY CASE'... it's 'OUT-OF-SIM', somewhere, in the comms, and does not matter whether the server- or slave-side. BETWEEN-SIM/OUT-OF-SIM COMMS possibly corrupted... anything in message-preprocessing (affecting contents of the actual message)?? anything in caching (affecting the addressing of object comms)? anything in object-to-comm tables?? anything?? i have reprogrammed my own machines to now de/re-activate according to network conditions, and am rolling them out now... This happened to one of my update servers on 02/24/2008
I noticed that no more updates were delivered. The reason was that the update server did not receive any more mails from outside the sim with update requests. Interesting enough it received mails originating from objects (requesters) inside the sim (but not from other sims) Basic checks: Complete reset and recompile of the update server script ==> did NOT fix the problem This kind of leaves the impression that the problem is related to the object (task). however i still have one problem slavebox in a sim called 'Lag Free' which is being super-resistant - i have even laid out a new box, ran it with one of the other running vend's keys, then plugged in the reluctant network to again find it would not connect... to either the old well i'd only just finished my first round cleaning up all the 'spare network' stuff from this past week – UPDATE just a few mins later... i return to Lag Free to find that the vendor box – UPDATE 2... well i don't think the old key is going to work, although 10-15 other locations have no prob with it. :\ i wouldn't call it 'case closed' as that could still be a lingering problem, but 'for now', it's more back to normal and the new key works... upon a vendor walkabout today, i found a vendor shutdown, and unable to restart! fortunately, drag-copying in place fixed the prob - if you've uncopiable vendors, then taking then re-rezzing may be doable.
related or beyond the issue??: i'm usually assured that an email reaches me offworld if a vendor shuts down. if perhaps the slave vendor is not able to reach home via its initial key, and i do not receive a shutdown notification from the slave, then it perhaps is unable to email this has also happened to server/home machines too though; while - strangely - a master key can 'go bad' for a slave location (the only fix for a remote slave being a new master box) - that's the 'strangest' situation. otherwise if it's a completely 'local' breakdown of comms, that makes more sense... UPDATE: thinking of which, THERE ARE CONFIRMABLE 'DEEP LAG BUBBLES' all the way down to MONEY 'TIME OUTS' STILL... i had a couple yesterday with two customers mid-afternoon (10/11 am sl time, and am having in excess of three minutes programmed time-out on my vendors today. (and i would not rely upon email 'shutdown' notifications of inworld objects at that point)... whether the lags are primarily responsible, or whether there is corruption in any sort of 'object comm tables', is difficult to say now. still... :\ <striketrhu>however, in one case, a drag-copy of the same vend created a startup. i am also seeing Gigs, assigning to you as part of the conversation we've been having. Note that it's reported as improving. But I don't know that this is a) the same thing and b) has matching circumstances.
Second Life Server 1.22.1.88473
Problem has become worse. Object only occasionally receives eMail (about 90% never arrive) from offworld (eMail --> object). Mail from a certain eMail address is polled every 5 seconds via llGetNextEmail("user@whatever.dom", ""); for new mails. other than the outages this past saturday (misc. sims going down), i haven't had any probs myself lately, with inworld vends or slEx/onRez boxes... (which is unusual, and good for once).
Resolving this since it's had no updates in such a long time and has an older version as effected version when it was an issue. Please reopen if this is still an issue.
i'll copy my comment over from http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-23
":0 i'm having some outage probs too again with this morning's report; i am having to drag-copy remote vendors and starting the fresh ones to reach home again. so you may need to take/re-rez no-copy vends to get them operating again." -ny |
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