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Key: SVC-127
Type: New Feature New Feature
Status: Open Open
Priority: Normal Normal
Assignee: Unassigned
Reporter: Thomas Shikami
Votes: 21
Watchers: 1
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2. Second Life Service - SVC

A way to verify account without CC (credit card) or paypal

Created: 21/Apr/07 09:12 PM   Updated: 06/Apr/09 12:45 AM
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Please develop a system that allows verification of the person owning the account world wide without the need of credit card or paypal. This should be adding a verified address into the database to be able to be no longer "no payment info on file". There are many SL residents who do not have a credit card and also registering using paypal fails.

The new method should be able to verify the legal address of the account, should it be by sending a snail mail to that address or being verified by a trusted entity in the country. This could work similar to cacert.org. This would be a relief to those, who cannot get payment info on file and yet a way to counter griefing, as this would add another account status between payment info on file and unverified.



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ziggy dechou added a comment - 22/Apr/07 07:49 AM
I agree,.. It is not possible to verify without a CC. Paypal doesn't help since also paypal doesn't verify without CC. I know verifying through an email-adres won't be sufficient,.. but through a bank deposit, connected to IP-no., or whatever method,.. there MUST be ways to tell who's responsible for an avatar.
Maybe payments through IDEAL can be a solution,..
WHO is going to solve this???

Zigg

wanna meet? IM me or email through ziggy@3dziggy.com


Daedalus Young added a comment - 30/Apr/07 02:10 PM
Agreed 1000%. I do not want to have no payment info on file, but even more than that, I - do - not - want - a - credit card! I am not American and I don't want a system that costs me more money to pay for something, or even to use something. I have a Paypal account in direct connection to my bank account, yet that is not enough (for both PP and LL) to recognize me as I say I am.
Also, apart from paying and getting paid, locking me out the forums just because I don't have or want a credit card... is just plain rude, to say it mildly.

Daedalus Young added a comment - 30/Apr/07 02:15 PM
And could the priority of this issue be a little higher? If at all possible, I'd rather have this today than tomorrow.

Haravikk Mistral added a comment - 03/May/07 07:43 AM
You CAN verify a PayPal account without a credit card by attaching a bank-account using direct debit (though you'd better be sure you have a good password!). But it seems that LL won't accept this as verification, it only accepts PayPal accounts with credit cards, which kind of defeats the main purpose in using PayPal instead of going direct.

Even allowing people to send in cheques or make bank-transfers for a small amount could be very useful, slower perhaps but slower is better than nothing.


TigroSpottystripes Katsu added a comment - 06/May/07 02:44 PM
will this be considered resolved once the new age verification shit starts to run?

bcm Voom added a comment - 18/May/07 06:41 PM
Help I gave credit card info and still show no pay info in game but shows good on website?????????????????? Help.

AmigaDragon Greatrex added a comment - 08/Jun/07 12:29 AM
Perhaps not resolved, but hopefully bypassed.
Linden Labs, we need some way to give payment info without requiring credit cards, some of us can't (and some refuse to) get them.

McCabe Maxsted added a comment - 18/Jul/07 07:09 PM
What about LL accepting wire transfers? That doesn't seem that hard-money is still exchanged-and no CC/middleman is needed, just a valid bank account.

Flennan Roffo added a comment - 25/Jul/07 09:01 PM
The best way to proof someone's identity is simply that what is used for identity proof in the real world: an identity card or passport.

But since that has to be passed over electronic communication channels, in fact the issue remains how the document (copy of it) that is passed over the electronic dataline realy is the document of the user that controls the avatar and has not been edited with electronic means.....

I would think that the same method currently used to subscribe for a website domain would be sufficient.


Flennan Roffo added a comment - 25/Jul/07 09:04 PM
(with edit I could not edit my own comment, so I post a PS)

PS.
Perhaps it should be resolved by using nation/country based SL user groups that could provide a good and working system for user indentifications, which is supervised by LL.

Domain name providers have in fact already working procedures for user indentification that want to signup for a domain name. The same (local) procedure that domain name providers use in a certain country could be adapted by the representation of LL in that country.


Hydra Charron added a comment - 13/Apr/08 05:28 PM
I'm sure this won't be a popular opinion in this discussion, but I feel that the credit card requirement should be put back in place. I deal with griefers pretty much every day. If ejected from a SIM, most just go on to wreak havoc elsewhere, but some create an Alt account and come right back. I've had this happen in as little as 18 minutes (actually timed this). Many of the "scalability" problems we hear about are caused by this proliferation of alts. Want to fix many of the problems discussed in JIRA threads? Bring the number of avatars down to more closely approximate the number of actual humans using Second Life!

Roopert Huldschinsky added a comment - 02/Apr/09 07:30 PM - edited
I am just wondering. Paypal does verify my account. They trust me. They get their cash and whatever.
But i do also dont want a credit card.
Why does Lindenlabs not accept that paypal has verified my account - even if it happened without credit card?
This is like almost 2 year like that and i simply cannot understand whats so difficult with that.
And i dont want to understand.
I want my VERIFIED PAYPAL ACCOUNT to be accepted.

Liberty Neox added a comment - 06/Apr/09 12:45 AM
I have a VERIFIED paypal account, done with both a bank AND a credit card....
SL is STILL not accepting my account to make my year membership payment BUT they seem to use my account just fine for Linden dollars!!
WTH.... I am not understanding this at all??

I sent in a ticket with screen shots of my account, lets see how far that will get me : P