• All submissions to this site are governed by Second Life Project Contribution Agreement. By submitting patches and other information using this site, you acknowledge that you have read, understood, and agreed to those terms.
Issue Details (XML | Word | Printable)

Key: MISC-382
Type: New Feature New Feature
Status: Resolved Resolved
Resolution: Fixed
Priority: Major Major
Assignee: Unassigned
Reporter: WarKirby Magojiro
Votes: 33
Watchers: 1
Operations

If you were logged in you would be able to see more operations.
4. Second Life Misc Issues - MISC

Rotate the avatar last names. Retire old ones,

Created: 09/Jul/07 02:27 AM   Updated: 25/Jul/08 06:10 AM
Return to search
Component/s: Miscellaneous
Affects Version/s: None
Fix Version/s: None

Issue Links:
Relates
 


 Description  « Hide
There is a vast, growing social problem in SL.

I am informed that in ye olde times, last names were retired and replaced after a certain amount of uses. My own last name, Magojiro. Has only 493 users. Which I think is pretty nice.

But there are a few names in particular, which are FAR too overused. Among them are

Aabye
Allen
Hax
Babii
Voom

The name hax has over 2500 hits, with the first name starting with A alone. It's getting frankly ridiculous. Regardless of what long term plans you guys may have for the naming system, in the short term, thse, and a few more need to be retired immediately, before this problem gets any worse.

AS a result of names all being used up, many people are being forced to add numbers onto their names, or to create wild and fantastical names, due to anything remotely normal like "Peter Smith" long since taken.



 All   Comments   Change History      Sort Order: Ascending order - Click to sort in descending order
Schwartz Gustafson added a comment - 09/Jul/07 03:55 AM
This seems more like a policy suggestion than any kind of actionable bug, yeah?

McCabe Maxsted added a comment - 09/Jul/07 04:44 AM
I'm downgrading this to major as its impact since it's a cosmetic issue (but an important one, I agree) and changing it to a New Feature since as far as I'm aware there's no bug involved.

Gillian Waldman added a comment - 09/Jul/07 10:18 AM
Agreed - it's time...it's really time. While it might be funny the first few times, I am finding it hard to properly address people with names like ImABigPieceofCake6911OMFGTPME34 Hax.

Lorelei Patel added a comment - 09/Jul/07 03:30 PM
Please? How hard could it be? Someone to sit down with a phone book for an hour or so to grab some more names? I volunteer, if that's what's needed.

Hans541 Tomsen added a comment - 10/Jul/07 07:03 PM
Yeah, could not agree more (reflect on my Avatar name!)

As an addition:

  • There should be more names from different languages, not everybody has Anglo-saxian backgrounds.
  • Why could the second (family)name not be freely chosen?

Strife Onizuka added a comment - 11/Jul/07 10:27 PM
In the dawn of time when SL was small, restricted and then retiring last names was seen as a community builder and a mark of age.

Renaud Raymaker added a comment - 14/Jul/07 09:10 PM
Look at me man: Renaud Raymaker, is that a name?... I wanted to be called Al Raspoutine, but Al is taken for all last names, and you cannot choose your last name in this game. Second Life sucks man!

marcus prospero added a comment - 16/Jul/07 12:23 AM
Totally agree - I've got friends who've been disappointed they can't join with the first name they want as it's universally taken.

When were the names last rotatated? Months ago, and millions or residents ago.

A lot of the newer residents have numbers in their first names, and it's making it all just a little bit less immersive, I feel - a reminder that this is more a screen handle and less an identity.


Zammy Lusch added a comment - 16/Jul/07 01:06 AM
Yeah, I agree, rotate them more often. Once a month or so. Look at mine.....S was taken so now it's Zammy with a Z. Well it's kinda cool anyway

Marianne McCann added a comment - 25/Jul/07 01:46 PM
A discussion of this, plus several lengthy lists of potential future surnames, is underway on the Second Life Forums. http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=199764

Marianne McCann added a comment - 25/Jul/07 01:47 PM
Adding: I am more for adding new names rather than raising old ones from the dead. Those old names were intended to be unique and retired.

Aimee Congrejo added a comment - 27/Jul/07 09:49 AM
From the http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=199764 thread Marianne mentioned above...I take no credit for the list just posting to get them into Jira. ^^ List as of noon on 07/26/2007. LOL Surely the Lindens could swipe some of these!

Swazzle
Gabinetto
Rom
Threedee
Button
Mesh
Mouser
Dot
Tack
Starboard
Morel
Catamaran
Keynote
Fir
Cerulean
Chrome
Colophon
Quince

A - Asgard
B- Blowgun
C- Coconut
D- Days
E- Egg
F- Fashion
G- Grammar
H- Headache
I - Illusion
J- Junk
K- Kart
L- Lauper
M- Mover
N- Negative
O- Oklahoma
P- Piston
Q - Quiver
R- Raven
S- Squiqles
T - Tantrum
U - Useless
V - Victory
W - Washington
X - Xray
Y- Yodel
Z- Zen

Farmer
Daily
Reconwith
Human
Frog
Charlamagne
Funcrusher
Damage
Fisheye
Tooth
Castro
Lenin
Robocop
Ford
Carter
Nixon
Stalling
Caralho
Sticks
Jeezy

Ahmadinejad

Abba
Bowieknife
Caduceus
Douglas
Elephant
Fonceca
Gingham
Hobnob
Igloo
Jellico
Kanji
Liebold
McCracken
Milner
Numbskull
O'Hare
Okupnik
Plooy
Quarles
Rhodes
Snow
Tiger
Underwire
VanDijn
Wales
Xenophobe
Yount
Zither

Arbalast
Bung
Chimera
Doogood
Embolism
Flunt
Geriatric
Horniman
Inchworm
Jook
Koramadel
Lowbrow
MacNugget
Munchausen
Nevernever
O'Doors
Olivier
Ptang
Quarles
Recycle
Spiffing
Tutu
Underbelly
Vestibule
Winkle
Xamfire
Yoo
Zeitgeist

imogen

01. Andress
02. Jansson
03. Ekland
04. Mikkelsen
05. Tay
06. Hilton
07. Mishima
08. Dietrich
09. Hepburn
10. Beckham
11. Lee
12. Harket
13. Qiao
14. Thorarensen
15. Levy
16. Morissette
17. Schwarzenegger
18. Paradis
19. Warne
20. Vandevelde
21. Brosnan
22. Barthel
23. Campion
24. Jaurim
25. Kaas
26. Lolcat

Attard
Borg
Caruana
Diderot
Ellis
Federico
Lombardi
Mifsud
Pace
Scicluna
Vella
Zamm

Agouti
Bigbooty
Caruso
Dongle
Ego
Flann
Gulliver
Hanover
Inspired
Janz
Kirokellas
Larson
Marsupial
Nemotode
Orly
Plisskin
Quisan
Rasta
Seriously
Timber
Undulate
Vixen
Wogan
Xeres
Yoyodyne
Zekeial

Aces
Blackjack
Cards
Diamonds
Elegant
Flush
Gamer
Hand
Ideal
Jackpot
Kacino
Lucky
Made
Nodeal
Oboy
Penniless
Quizshow
Roulette
Straight
Throw
Useless
Victory
Whyme
Xploder
Yesterday
Zounds

A. Aaron
B. Bonds
C. Cal
D. Dukakis
E. Earnhardt
F. Freejohn
G. Gravel
H. Honig
I. Isbell
J. Juneau
K. Kucinich
L. Livermore
M. Matsuzaka
N. Naamleela
O. Obama
P. Paul
Q. Qoph
R. Romney
S. Sarkar
T. Trachsel
U. Umberto
V. Vijaya
W. Wanganeen
X. Ximenez
Y. Yandle
Z. Zakim

Trout
Supereight
Radium
Charm
Strange
Neutral
Eleven
Zone
Puffy
Freckle

Macchia
Tache
Peewee
Eggbeater
Zounds
Windmill
Joust
Spindle
Bindle
Leaf

Squint
Walrus
Capsize
Clue
Doggerel
Finesto

Argent
Android
Balmerino
Bourne
Cadeuceus
Cloverbelle
Delcampo
Drinker
Etoille
Ent
Fuente
Fogarty
Grigsby
Gondola
Horatio
Hyacinthe
Ignatz
Imagination
Jerricho
Joy
Ka
Krystal
Longbottom
London
Midori
Mechanic
Neverland
Nord
Ocelot
O'Bannion
Particle
Prince
Quiver
Quartz
Rochambeau
Red
Songsmith
Silverman
Twig
Tunguska
Ugg
Uvula
Vert
Volante
Weiss
Wolf
Xing
Xenia
Yohimbe
Yarrow
Ziggurat
Zoophile

Slavedriver

Aesar
Beetle
Caprice
Digger
Easystreet
Foulfeather
Gooper
Happy
Iolas
Jabber
Kind
Loki
Manners
Nevarth
Onion
Pembroke
Qara
Racer
Santana
Tristan
Unika
Vanity
Waddles
Zawadi

Albatross
Bouffant
Claptrap
Dribble
Extraneous
Foible
Goulashes
Hullabaloo
Interloper
Jalopy
Kumquat
Lilliput
Muckluck
Nil
Omg
Plethora
Queue
Rezzer
Shindig
Twinge
Uvula
Verdant
Wobbler
Xevious
Yap
Zenia

Anomatopoeia
Babushka
Calabaz
Daguerreotype
Echinacea
Filibuster
Glissando
Hedgehog
Iteration
Jurisprudence
Kookaburra
Lycopodium
Marsupial
Nebulous
Obsidian
Perestroika
Quaternion
Risotto
Slumgullion
Tremulous
Ululate
Vertebrate
Weatherworn
Xenophobe
Yohimbe
Zarf

Prower (obvious)
Bogard (double here)
Sakazaki (TRIPLE)
Howard (another double)
Matsuda (props if you recognize this one)
Masters

Baker
Biscuit
Carrington
Cassidy
Chavez
Cortez
Cougar
Delores
Diaz
First
Forelli
Freeloader
Gonzales
Hanson
Jethro
Kelly
King
Lazlow
Magic
Martinez
Paul
Pepe
Poulet
Richards
Psycho
Robina
Rosenberg
Scott
Shrub
Supplier
Suxxx
Thor
Torrent
Vance
Vercetti

Lulz
Bucket
Roflcopter
Lolcat
Walrus
Cheezeburger
Prairiedog
Boing
Pugh
Pugh
Barney
McGrew
Cuthbert
Dibble
Grub

a anibal
b bee
c cousta
d devvo
e elimper
f frodda
g grimwa
h holiday
i instid
j jupilee
k korrine
l lendwa
m mufstin
n nordic
o osprint
p prammer
q questry
r rumblish
s skytorn
t thespry
u unstrim
v verilee
w wixby
x xervier
y yilder
z zambros

Armpit
Bender
Burke
Butt
Coffin
Daft
Honeybum
Hooker
Kettle
McQueer
Nutter
Pipe
Pratt
Puller
Ramsbottom
Reddick
Salmon
Shufflebottom
Smelt
Snatchfold
Strange
Tongue
Topless
Wildgoose
Winkle
Winterbottom

Alarmist
Boggles
Condescending
Derailed
Elitist
Flames
Google
Homoniem
Ignorant
IBTL
Justified
Killed
Lunatic
Locked
Muddled
Nosedive
Necromancer
Offtopic
OP
Post
Poster
Poll
Pole
PBSS
Question
Quote
Reported
Reference
Resmod
Senseless
Symptom
Strawman
Thread
Troll
Tangent
Unknown
Vote
Wrecked
Xamine
Yiff
Zomgz

critters

arowana
bovine
cuscus
degus
echidna
flamingo
grunion
hartebeest
irukandji[b]
jellyfish
kestrel
llama
mink
nutria
oriole
python
quoll
raptor
stork
topis
uromastyx
vicunas
wombat
yak
zebra


Amanda Ascot added a comment - 20/Aug/07 11:26 AM
I can't vote for this because it address two unrelated issues (rotation, which I'm for) and retirement (which I'm against). I think the core issue is that we should be able to choose our names. Yes, I know we can pay Linden Lab for a custom name, but in my opinion that's a rip-off. Sorry, but I have to be blunt about that. Even better than rotation would be to have the entire set of names available at all times, rather than having to sort through an arbitrary list of (often stupid) last names,

ZigZag Freenote added a comment - 01/Dec/07 04:44 AM
From the Knowledge Base, Second Life Last Names FAQ

<quote>
How can I suggest a last name?

You can make casual suggestions to a Linden because it's fun to share, but please understand they likely will not be added because we'd be flooded with requests. There are too just many great ideas out there for us to keep track of.
<end quote>


ZigZag Freenote added a comment - 01/Dec/07 05:16 AM
If anyone is interested in statistics, see http://slnamewatch.com/ I think it does not cover CSI last names properly (shows at least some of them as if only one avatar would use that last name), but it could be pretty much up to date otherwise.

Top 3 (no longer available) are: Allen 154317, Oh 96164, Beck 95952
Top 3 for the available ones: Aeon 25931, Alter 10962, Destiny 9837

The ones starting with A are particularly popular for bots. Who would bother scrolling down the list when creating dozens of them...

According to the data on that page, the top ones were active for 6 months and presumably were not closed earlier for overpopularity. FAQ states last names are "retired manually after being picked in the high hundreds ".

There is a big gap from 1000 to 150,000. But 10,000 sounds reasonable to me, with current influx you can't expect 500, you must admit. My last name was apparently closed at 5371. I haven't met anyone with the same last name yet. I did however see quite a few of those from the top of the list.

Basically, WarKirby, you will need to define the fit criteria for closing this one 10,000? 25,000?


Adz Childs added a comment - 21/Dec/07 04:54 PM - edited
Thank you, ZigZag.

I just want to quickly address this -
"I think it does not cover CSI last names properly (shows at least some of them as if only one avatar would use that last name)"

The CSI names posed an interesting challenge for me. First, these last names were never in the list of last names available through secondlife.com. Therefore, finding them relied a bit of luck. I'm sure I missed a few of them. Secondly, my site updates the count of active last names about once a week, and the counts of retired last names about once every three months. The CSI last names were troublesome because they were not retired, but they were not active either, as active is defined as "available on the join now page". Long story short, even after I discover them and enter them manaully, the CSI names will be on the 3-month counting schedule rather than the 1-week counting schedule. While waiting for the long update, counts will show as 1. I haven't thought up a way to fix this problem yet. One possibility is to keep track of the last names available at the electricsheepcompany registration portal...


Adz Childs added a comment - 21/Dec/07 05:08 PM
Does anyone know if there are an other portals besides SL's own Join Now page, and (sigh) electricsheepcompany.com's CSI:NY registration page? I can't believe there are some names out there that are only available depending on what portal you use. grrrr.

WarKirby Magojiro added a comment - 22/Dec/07 02:23 AM
I think it would be good to have a hard cap on a name usage. Something like 5-8000. I think 10,000 is too much, though.#

Is Hax retired yet? I'm so sick of that _


Adz Childs added a comment - 26/Dec/07 10:37 AM
I have just completed some fundamental changes to slnamewatch.com that accommodate the exclusive names available to CSI:NY. The respective counts have all been updated. They no longer all say "1". Here they are:
http://slnamewatch.com/index.php?action=list_records&status_filter=active-alt&sort_order=DESC&order_by=usage_count

These changes do not affect the name rotation alert mailing list.

If anyone knows of alternative RegAPI portals with their own sets of exclusive last names, I can accommodate them as well. CSI:NY is the only one I know of, though.

Yes, WarKirby. Hax was retired on 2007-07-28. 66,484 users who managed to register under it during the 179 days it was open still have active accounts appearing in People Search as of 2007-10-25.


Mercia Mcmahon added a comment - 07/Mar/08 01:04 PM - edited
According to http://www.slnamewatch.com/ there has not been a new surname added since 137 days ago, come on LL its time to refresh the list!
60 names added on 14th March, ty LL.

Gigs Taggart added a comment - 28/Mar/08 06:48 PM
There are about 3000 available last names now, I'd say that fixes this issue.